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i posted earlier about the starter not turning over and heres what i did. made my first mistake of jumping the solenoid at the starter not on the fender dont know why but i did. when doing that the starter spun so i knew it wasnt the starter. then replacing the solenoid on the fender b/c i was told that if the key was not in the ignition the solenoid should not work at the starter unless the solenoid on the fender was bad and sending a constant 12v to the solenoid on the starter. now jumping the solenoid on the fender the motor turns but the key will still not turn the engine over. dont know what to do now.
thanks for all the input and sorry if the above statement makes no sense
The solenoid on the fender is an electrical switch. It does have one hot wire to it at all times. The movement of the key switch will activate the internal parts of the solenoid and complete contact to the starter. The motor wont go to run until the key switch is set in the "on" position and turn the fuel ON at the injection pump (front wire on top of the pump). Always be sure the trans is in park (automatic) neutral (standard) if you are messing with the solenoids. If you tried to jump start the engine and hooked the cables positive on one battery and negative on the other battery, you created 24 volt system and probably cooked the on/off of the injection pump. Loosen some of the nuts on the injectors and crank the engine over with the key switch and see if you are getting lots of fuel at the injectors. Before you do crank the engine, have someone work the key for you - on -- off - and pay attention for a definite clicking (on - off type) from the injection pump. DONT crank on the starter too long at one time, they are sensitive to work and heat.
As suggested above, test for power at the small wire on fender solenoid. One person crank key the other measure voltage. If there is no voltage there, you probalby have a bent or stripped rod that links the mechanical switch in the stering column with the electrical one down below.