Notices
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L) Diesel Topics Only

starter--need help

Old Nov 26, 2004 | 09:46 AM
  #1  
Tommy C's Avatar
Tommy C
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
starter--need help

i posted earlier about the starter not turning over and heres what i did. made my first mistake of jumping the solenoid at the starter not on the fender dont know why but i did. when doing that the starter spun so i knew it wasnt the starter. then replacing the solenoid on the fender b/c i was told that if the key was not in the ignition the solenoid should not work at the starter unless the solenoid on the fender was bad and sending a constant 12v to the solenoid on the starter. now jumping the solenoid on the fender the motor turns but the key will still not turn the engine over. dont know what to do now.

thanks for all the input and sorry if the above statement makes no sense

thanks again
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2004 | 10:05 AM
  #2  
pnose's Avatar
pnose
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 692
Likes: 0
From: newfoundland canada
Check for voltage at the small wire that pushes onto the fender sol.Key must be in the crank position to get voltage,yep a 2 person job.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2004 | 10:32 AM
  #3  
bilder12's Avatar
bilder12
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,897
Likes: 0
From: Northeastern Pa - USA
The solenoid on the fender is an electrical switch. It does have one hot wire to it at all times. The movement of the key switch will activate the internal parts of the solenoid and complete contact to the starter. The motor wont go to run until the key switch is set in the "on" position and turn the fuel ON at the injection pump (front wire on top of the pump). Always be sure the trans is in park (automatic) neutral (standard) if you are messing with the solenoids. If you tried to jump start the engine and hooked the cables positive on one battery and negative on the other battery, you created 24 volt system and probably cooked the on/off of the injection pump. Loosen some of the nuts on the injectors and crank the engine over with the key switch and see if you are getting lots of fuel at the injectors. Before you do crank the engine, have someone work the key for you - on -- off - and pay attention for a definite clicking (on - off type) from the injection pump. DONT crank on the starter too long at one time, they are sensitive to work and heat.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2004 | 04:37 PM
  #4  
79beater's Avatar
79beater
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
As suggested above, test for power at the small wire on fender solenoid. One person crank key the other measure voltage. If there is no voltage there, you probalby have a bent or stripped rod that links the mechanical switch in the stering column with the electrical one down below.

Hope that helps
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2004 | 05:56 PM
  #5  
PLC7.3's Avatar
PLC7.3
Post Fiend
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,638
Likes: 1
From: Manitoba
Is this a standard if so the clutch pedal switch may be fubar, if it is auto try starting in nuetral or wiggle the shifter.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2004 | 06:46 PM
  #6  
Tommy C's Avatar
Tommy C
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Good news!! it started in neutral. THanks for the great tip PLC7.3 why did it do that if i may ask? thanks a lot though.

TOmmy
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2004 | 07:00 PM
  #7  
PLC7.3's Avatar
PLC7.3
Post Fiend
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,638
Likes: 1
From: Manitoba
You may need to do an alignment of the manual lever position sensor (MLPS) and the steering column PRND lever.
 
Reply


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:44 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 10:59:05


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE