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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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steering pump squirts fluid!

Hi,

I have a 92 f250 5.8. I bought this used and in non-running condition
Anyway, I have recently replaced the
steering gearbox, pump and hoses. All seemed well for a few weeks, but then
I noticed some spots of steering fluid on my drive. I checked it out last
night and could see that fluid was leaking somewhere, but with the engine
running I couldn't see where it was coming from. Then I turned the
steering to full lock and there was a 1 foot stream of fluid squirting
out of the tiny breather hole in the reservoir cap attached to the pump.
It kept on squirting until the fluid went well below the bottom of the
dip stick in the cap and the fluid was very foamy.


Any ideas? Is is a bad pump or a bad gear unit? Both were rebuild units from Kragen / autozone with "lifetime warranties", but I need to determine which one to return and "bitch about" ;-)

Thanks,

Ian
 
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 01:30 AM
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eee, sounds like first off, you still had air in the system. Normally it will work it self out in a few days but i you want to give the purging a helping hand. Jack up both front wheels so they are not loaded. Fill the pump to the propper level, and slowly crank the wheels lock to lock about 5-10 cycles. Check the fluid level, start the engine and do the same. Check the fluid level durring this process. When the system is bled completly there will be no more air bubbles present while the engine is running.

About it squirting fluid. When you turn the wheels with the engine off some fluid will be displaced back into the resivour. This is normall. No fluid will leak out unless.....it was overfilled to begin with.

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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Joboo, thank for your reply.

I decided to flush the system again as the fluid looked nasty, even though
I've replaced all the components, maybe the rebuilt pump had crud in it?

I was a lso thinking that I may had had water in the return line somehow, and maybe the fluid boiled over??


So I did that last night, no squirting out of the cap now, but the high
pressure hose sprang two pin hole leaks ,... it was a new one from
Kragen by powercraft. I got a replacement this morning.
The two leaks we dead center in between the joins of the spiralling
on the protective cover??

Hopefully I'm just unlucky with this so far and there's not something
wrong with the steering box causing very high back pressure at full lock.
But I should think the high pressure hose should be able to take all the pressure the steering pump can deliver...?? or am I wrong here.


Ian
 
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Joboo,

BTW, what difference doe it make if you jack up the front wheels?
Sorry, but I like to understand how things work ... it drives my wife nuts!

Ian
 
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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You jack up the wheels to take the load off and make it easy to turn. You're going to do this operation with the truck turned off.(no pump to assist) I might also add, a lot of people use ATF instead of true power steering fluid. It works, but it's not a recommended idea. ATF is rather high in detergents, and will foam and break down a lot quicker than true power steering fluid will. For that matter, most people never change their power steering fluid either. It's probably the most forgotten lubricant in your vehical. When you turn the wheel to full lock with the truck running, does it make a squealling noise? If not, I'd say your pressure relief valve is shot, this causing the fluid to spew out.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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hi, no it doesn't make a squealing noise at full lock. But I'll listen
more carefully tonight.

I guess that valve is inside the stearing gear box, yes?

Ian
 
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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does the pressure relief valve only operate at the two full lock positions
or should it open up if the wheels are stalled at another position.
Just wondering if I did something wrong when I installed the gearbox.

The turning circle on this truck is very large, but I attributed that to
the fact that it is a super cab, long bed with 4x4.

Ian
 
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