MIG welders
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Phil
Stay away from the Cheap Mexico Made Lincoln Welding Machines. Lincoln makes most of the welders in Mexico and repairs are common and warranty is hard to get done. Lincoln will try to get you to pay for break downs.
Lincoln also uses PLASTIC WIRE DRIVE Systems that BREAK. MILLER uses CAST ALUMINUM.
Miller has an excellent service department for any issues with their welders.
**Lincoln has very poor service after the sale.**
Miller also makes a VERY GOOD ELECTRIC HELMET.
Our Local San Diego Lincoln Rep sells Lincoln products direct to customers, so the San Diego Welding Distributors look at Lincoln as a Competator.
Miller works through distribution and loves to help
I suggest to buy a Miller/Hobart Welder
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Miller has Metal Wire Drive Systems, Lincoln has plastic on their small units
Miller Rep Works with Distributors, Lincoln Sells Direct and cuts out the distibutor
Miller Machines have expensive infinite voltage/wire speed control, Lincoln has cheap mexico made tap system.
Miller has Current up to date technology, Lincoln is still in the 1930's
Miller has TOOLESS DRIVEROLL CHANGEOUT, Lincoln driveroll needs a SPECIAL allen wrench to take the TINY drive roll off and takes about an hour to change.
Miller has safety features, Lincoln machines can shock you !!!!
Compare for yourself and make a decision, I prefer Miller for long term use and Lincoln for throw away after a couple years of ownership
Last edited by myfordf350; Nov 19, 2004 at 09:36 PM.
. I have welded on both Miller and Lincoln welders and both are good welders. I would not have any reservations about buying either of them. When I went looking for a mig machine in the early '90's, I looked at and welded on the Millermatic 250 and the comparable Lincoln mig (forget the model) and also looked at Hobart and 'Linde' I think it was.
A friend and very accomplished welder suggested I give HTP a try. I had never heard of them, but since I trusted my friend and the owner of the company promised a money-back gaurantee if I didn't like it (it's a small company), I bought one and have been happy ever since. Mine is a 220v (input) 200 amp (max output) HTP MIG 200 (www.htpweld.com) that I've used for over 10 years now on everything from light sheetmetal to 3/8" and I really like it. They also make a dual-voltage 160-amp mig that can run on both 110v and 220v. I looked at that one but decided I didn't need the 110v feature since I have had 220 available in every house I've lived in. Mine runs fine on the 30-amp breaker for the dryer, as long as I don't attempt to dry clothes while welding.
I have welded on a 110v gasless wire feeder and really didn't like it. It was a small Lincoln, don't remember the model. It ran out of juice on 1/8" fence pipe the flux core wire doesn't make for very clean welds either. Shielding gas does much better. I run argon/CO2 mix and it works pretty good for most stuff I do.
At work, I weld on a huge 440 3-phase Miller. I forget the model but the thing is as big as a large home freezer and is about 25 years old. It's hooked up to a Cobramatic wire feeder and I think an ESAB mig pulser. We weld light gauge aluminum extrusion and the machines are great for that. At home I also have a Powcon 300 DC powersource (220v) with spray arc, mig pulser, and a Cobramatic wire feeder I got from work that I'm hoping to find a torch for so I can do aluminum at home too. The motordrive torches for these things are super expensive to buy new, I'm finding out. If anyone has an old one they want to get rid of, let me know...
.Recently, I looked at the new Lincoln Powermig 300 with built-in push-pull Cobramatic feeder and motordrive torch, like what I use at work. It comes with pulse unit inside too and seems to be all set up for welding aluminum right out of the box. I may try one sometime if I get the chance. They're super expensive, but from what I have seen of the computer controlled Lincoln migs in the hands of a skilled welder, they are really good. I worked at a shop a few years ago that had one and the operator made welds with it that looked like TIG. Not that I would be able to do the same, but it's nice to know the machine can do it in the right hands.
Last edited by SoCalDesertRider; Nov 19, 2004 at 11:53 PM.
I am sure there may be others besides myself that would be interested.
I would go to your local "Weld Supply House or Internet or Ebay" and look for yourself and decide on the Machines, Gas, Gloves and Electric Helmet you are going to invest in.
Miller seems to have their act together to supply the best unit for your money and long term use.
I also design and build metal sculptures and have a 1988 MM200 with dual head feeder on top with an additional spool gun, The machine is 220VAC single phase, can weld up to four different guns (one at a time) Mild Steel, Aluminum, Stainless, Silicon Bronze. Gases used are CO2, Argon/CO2, Argon, Argon/Helium Mix, Trimixes.
Other machines owned are Syncrowave 351 with all the pulser goodies, Computerized(Burney 2.5 controller)/Optical Eye Plasma Cutter with Hypertherm Max900. Also a Max900 for hand cutting, Lathe, Miller 200DX portable Tig/Stick welder, Miller 301G Trailblazer Gas Drive, Voltage sensing feeder (Red-D-Arc)and one Millermatic135 and Millermatic175 mig welders, Scotchman 40 ton ironworker, 20" faceplate sander, Mill, 6'x3' - 3/4" thick work/weld steel table, Magnetic Drill, Handheld motorized Koike cutting Torch, Three Miller Electric Helmets (Four Sensor Type), and lots of power to run these tools.
Welding can be fun and making projects is much better than watching sports on TV and getting drunk. I have yet to see a Sports Fan ever get true satisfaction from watching a game. Take a piece of metal and fabricate it into a usefull tool, car, sandbuggy, BBQ's, farm implement, spaceship, gift for your wife, hotrod, product to market with your name on it !!! THAT'S COOL.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!! Ford TOUGH TRUCKS have lots of TOUGH long term welds on their trucks. You may want to contact FORD and ask who they get help from for Welding Engineering challenges.
Last edited by myfordf350; Nov 20, 2004 at 11:20 AM.
I have Two 2002 Yamaha Banshees, One 1988 CR500 and Two 2002 Yamaha 660 Raptors and we all ride at Glamis and Gordon Wells. The desert is a blast. It's like riding on Warm Snow. I pull my stuff to the desert with a 32 foot Fleetwood Bounder (It has a FORD 460 Gas motor in it)
I love it !!!!!!!!!!! Lot's fo FORDS pulling Trailers to the desert too.
If you still need that push pull system, you can try RED-D-ARC at 858 268 4585 and ask for RICK. He is the Welding God of New/Used Equipment and parts for your machine at home.
Rick also owns a F350 CC, 4x4, Long bed Gaser.
Ever notice that the Ford Blue Oval Logo is Miller Blue or is it Ford Blue ?
Ford/Miller, what a great combo !!!!!
We will be at Glamis/Wash 12 for Thanksgiving, see you there.
. Thanks for the kind words as well, despite my not-so-kind words to you in my first message.Yep, I love the Desert as well! If it wasn't for being able to get away and blow off some steam with a few twists of the right wrist, I think I would go crazy in this city. We will be out at Ocotillo Wells for Turkey Day weekend. Yea!!
. Have fun in the Dunes!I agree, Ford makes great trucks and Miller makes great welders, no arguements there! So do Dodge, Toyota, Lincoln Electric, etc... I like any company that makes a good product :-).
Nice bikes you have there too. I ride an '85 ATC 250R and an '89 CR500R, and also have a YZ80 and, untill recently, two '85 ATC 200X's. I have alot of fun racing Banshees and big 4 strokers up Blowsand on the 250R
. Those 'Shees are fast...Have Fun and Always Ride Safe. -So.Cal.







