Notices

Broken spark plug

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 17, 2004 | 10:16 PM
  #16  
Torque1st's Avatar
Torque1st
Posting Legend
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,255
Likes: 37
Unfortunately the particles will get down around the top land of the piston and embed there, scoring the cylinder walls during operation. Removing the head is the only way to do this. When the heads are removed it is common to use white grease around the top of the piston to catch the debris when the piston is cleaned etc. The piston can then be moved down to allow the grease and trapped grit to be wiped away. Using WD or other liquids will just wash the grit and debris down into the top ring land area where it can do the most damage.
 
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2004 | 10:43 PM
  #17  
76390FE's Avatar
76390FE
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
I agree with torque1st, remove head and do it the right way. that way you are sure there are no pieces of ceramic that make it into the cylinder as this WOULD do damage to the cylinder wall
 

Last edited by 76390FE; Nov 17, 2004 at 10:45 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 01:27 AM
  #18  
"Beemer Nut"'s Avatar
"Beemer Nut"
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,658
Likes: 4
From: "Islander"
busted plug

Yes i know it sounds crude. Do you think a dealer would remove a head and clean the bore? Do they even blow around the plugs before removing them?
Carl....o&o>......
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 05:09 AM
  #19  
letterman's Avatar
letterman
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
From: Central NJ
Originally Posted by Sberry27
It would help to know what engine it is. Its possible to blow air in thru the intake and vac out the cyl after the fact with a hose or a straw. But, Eric's idea of removing the head is certainly reliable and depending on the age of the engine a new set of gaskets isnt always a bad idea anyway. A little of the removal techinque would depend on the tools you have availiable.
To answer the earlier question about engine size, it is the 4-cyl 2.3 liter engine (yeah, I realize it's low end, but it's served me well for the last 10 years). The plug in question is the one right in the front closest to the distributor.
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 12:34 PM
  #20  
"Beemer Nut"'s Avatar
"Beemer Nut"
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,658
Likes: 4
From: "Islander"
easy head removal

Letterman, i was thinking you had a 390, this is alot less involved. Isn't it a aluminum head? Just pull it. Carl........o&o>.........
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 07:02 PM
  #21  
Torque1st's Avatar
Torque1st
Posting Legend
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,255
Likes: 37
If we get into engine specifics the post will have to be moved to the tech forums. We cover generic techniques here in the Garage forum.
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2004 | 03:06 AM
  #22  
dilbone56's Avatar
dilbone56
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
First of all, I have been in that exact situation with a friends 2.3. If I understand correctly, you have twisted off the plug, and now there is nothing left for the socket to grab hold of. If this is correct, then what follows is not fun. Two options, either take the head to a machine shop and let them go at it, or you can remove the head, drill into the plug and use an easy out to remove the remains. Then you'll need to clean the threads to make sure this doesn't happen again. By the way, PB Blaster is the way to go. Use plenty of it before you try the easy out or you'll end up with a bigger mess then you have now. It's not fun, and it's not a quick job, so take it easy or you'll be looking for a shop to repair your head if you're lucky, if not you'll be looking for another head. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2004 | 04:50 AM
  #23  
Torque1st's Avatar
Torque1st
Posting Legend
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,255
Likes: 37
Remove the head like we told you in your garage forum thread which has been merged with this one.

This is payback for not using anti-seize...

The threads are totally destroyed also. You will need to take it to a machine shop to have an insert installed. Unless you have a drill press and the proper equipment it will be very difficult or impossible to get the insert aligned right.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 01:43 PM
  #24  
spoolin6's Avatar
spoolin6
New User
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: Western NY
I just went throught this on a 97 5.8. Ford had replaced the exhaust manifolds twice, and the second time they did not replace or reinstall the plug heat shields on the manifolds. The 1 year old spark plugs froze in the head and broke (3 of them) but the porcelin came out. I heated the remaining shard of metal with torch and removed with an easy out. Use lots of penetrating oil during the process and let it sit. Blow out the cylinders when done with air in the spark plug hole. I had to pull the engine due to bad manifolds again! at 80K miles, so I did this on the engine stand. I am able to look in the cylinders as well, and never lost any porcelin into any of the three cylinders. Good old warped 5.8 manifolds! When I removed I found why they dont seal well, on rear cylinder the exhaust port was almost covered by the manifold flange! Ford calls it tolerance stack, I call it junk. Bought a set of JBAs that fit PERFECTLY. Oddly JBA can make it fit!

Good luck!
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ymirr
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
8
Apr 6, 2017 07:42 PM
royeco
1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator
9
Feb 21, 2017 10:30 AM
doughogan
2009 - 2014 F150
4
Oct 11, 2016 02:29 PM
HelenB
Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer & Aviator
1
May 17, 2016 04:38 PM
48' fordster
Flathead V8 & Flathead 6
15
Apr 23, 2007 06:33 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:30 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE