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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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i was told this might be a 428 here are the casting numbers c6me-a but the date code is 5 m 29 which does not make sense unless the 5 is really a 6 is this just a 390 or a 352 or a 428
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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gashog...

my 352 is like that too,
I was wondering what was up with that. the casting number on mine is "C7ME-A" and the date code is "6823" wich I assume is August 23rd 1966 but the casting number says 1967... and they are both VERY ledgable no questions or maybes, in case anyone asks... so does anybody have a idea???

 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
i was told this might be a 428 here are the casting numbers c6me-a but the date code is 5 m 29 which does not make sense unless the 5 is really a 6 is this just a 390 or a 352 or a 428
Well C6ME-A's were used for HD Truck 330ci,352ci,359,361,391ci,360ci,390ci,410ci,and 428's.....Take your pick?

I take this is just a block and the only thing you can check is bore? Whats the bore size?

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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it is a complete engine with heads and a edlebrock intake the heads are c8ae-h
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dots
gashog...

my 352 is like that too,
I was wondering what was up with that. the casting number on mine is "C7ME-A" and the date code is "6823" wich I assume is August 23rd 1966 but the casting number says 1967... and they are both VERY ledgable no questions or maybes, in case anyone asks... so does anybody have a idea???

Same as I posted for Gashog, but my source doesnt say they were used for 390's or 410's......
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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thanks Russ,

I am starting to think they are like the vin number is to the body....
the 66 date code was being built for a 67 year engine? who knows...
390? 410? wish mine was a 410! that would be cool.
 
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
it is a complete engine with heads and a edlebrock intake the heads are c8ae-h
Well It might be a 428? I show C8AE-F and C8OE-H as 428 heads...
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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I am not sure but I think they used the c8ae-h heads on 360's too.

correct me if I am wrong, but isnt a block casting number of "**ME-*" constitue a mercury car engine? I was told this by a fairly knowing ford dude... and he said that if it was original it should be **TE-* for a pickup or truck engine... but maybe hes just talking through his bottom.
 
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That could very well be.....I used too have a set of 406 heads on my 390..and before my dad passed and the truck was in Cal... now I have have if I seen right in the dark?? C4AE and 1 C08OE??? hell that ****'s me off.. so the *** that did the Valve job...put on other heads?? and arent even matched!!
 
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Originally Posted by dots
I am not sure but I think they used the c8ae-h heads on 360's too.

correct me if I am wrong, but isnt a block casting number of "**ME-*" constitue a mercury car engine? I was told this by a fairly knowing ford dude... and he said that if it was original it should be **TE-* for a pickup or truck engine... but maybe hes just talking through his bottom.
the m stands for merc the t is for truck both e are for enginering department
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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aw geez Russ... that sux. it reminds me of the time my brother got his 390GT heads rebuilt at a shop... he went to pick them up and there were exaust bolt holes missing... the guy swore it was the set he left off and although a good gob on what he got back his exausts would not fit and I wond up with them. but anyways some of those old C4 and older heads had taller intake ports too... if you had two different ones and one specific intake manifold you would have a nice port mismatch. major bummer.

thanx for the M - T confirmation!
 

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Well I kinda wondered why the old girl didnt seem to have as much steam as she once did?? But Until a year ago I hadnt driven the truck in 15 years...that was the last time I did a chassis up restore on it....

But anyway its Morphing into something now?? I dont know what but, I think in 2 to 3 years time some of the guys in the forum wont even know it her??

Russ,
 
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By the date code 5M29 you have it still might be a early 428 block. As I remember didn't Ford skip a month for some reason in the date codes? I've seen this somewhere and I'll look for it. Anyway the 428 came out in 66 and were produced a month or so earlier than Jan 66. I think it still might be a 428 especially with the "A" on the back. you said was there. With Ford skipping a month I'd say the date code is Dec 29. 1965 and well within the early 428 region. The C8-H heads are not the original heads but were used on 360's 390's and 428's. As long as it has the "A" on the back I still feel you have a 428 block there. JMO, G.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2004 | 11:50 PM
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hi from aussie , just reading your posted ,s would you check my number,s pl
head casting numbers , 9m2 , c7te-c
rods , c7tea one side, a60 j the opp side
block , dif42 , aa , 9m5
crank , a
thinking its a 361 was both as a 391 ? thanks hope you have a good xmas
 
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The C7TE-C rods are 330hd/361/391
Does the crank have a parting line running down it? Are there and other numbers down on the 7th counterweight? Most 361/391 cranks were forged steel but some are iron too. The reason I ask is the "A" crank is a 428 CJ. The "A" is on the 1st counterweight but should have a IUB on the 7th. It's odd to find a 428 crank in a 361 but you never know so please have a look.
What does the bore of the block measure? The DIF42 is dearborn iron foundry and the 42 is just the mold number. Look for a D1TE-AA casting number. Being you saw the AA the D1TE might be there also. Does the block have vertical ribs on both sides?
9M5....does the 9 have two dots underneath it?
The two dots represent a 70's casting. The number over the dots the year. The M is December and the 5 the 5th day. The puzzle here is the DIF. Only 427 and 428 blocks remained at DIF and all other FE/FT blocks were moved to MCC for casting. So a little more detective work is needed here. It could be the original block or a service replacement block.
Heads C7TE-C are 330HD/361/391 with 78.5-81-5 chambers.
So check the block again for bore size,ribs and casting numbers. Look for the two dots under the date code also. And the crank for numbers also on the 7th counterweight. G.
 
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