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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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Manual or Power Steering

On my Bronco, I put a 390 in it. The Oil filter is in a place so the lines that go to the stock power steering box cannot make it to their destination. The filter is only an inch away from the box. My question is that would it be a real pain in the butt to have manual steering if I'm running 36's. If it is too bad then I would just re-locate the oil filter, and make a bracket to put the power steering pump on my motor, and run power steering. so would it be worth it to take the extra time/money to hook up the power steering?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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what about getting some lines made to fit in there?

post a few pitcures for us to look at.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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Running 36" tires in a street driven vehicle, you are definatly going to want to fix the power steering problems or it will get real tiresome real fast. if it were me I would just get a remote oil filter mounting kit, and move the filter.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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I've strongarmed wheeled 35's before, and the steering feedback was pretty harsh. Then again, you probably have power assist vs. real power steering so it won't be hugely better. Anyways, the path of least resistance is just to remote mount your oil filter. cheap and easy.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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come on guys. i'm just a weakling, and i've been rollin the 35"s armstrong with a little grant steering wheel for 9 months as a daily driver, ever since i gave up and quit refilling my power assist (easiest way to quit it's leaking). I am workin of finding a power system though. (got a scout box today, update later) Go Full power box or go home, none of this assist crap. parking lots are interesting and i wouldnt recommend it for a rock crawler, but manual is an affordable system that can work fine for your purposes.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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Yea, but we're (at least, I am) talking about wheeling it with manual, not just driving it down the road to the mall Wheeling with manual sucks, it will rip the wheel right out of your hands. Having real power steering helps a goodly bit. I do agree its not worth it to bother with the power assist.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 08:35 PM
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well when I mean Manual steering, I mean I have a 67' that has a manual steering box that I'm gonna use, AND, right now I'm running the power steering box, w/o the pump hooked up and YES it will rip that wheel outa your hands soo fast U don't even know it till U can't move your thumb after cuz it yanked it so hard!, but yes, it only does that wheelin', and only if ur really honnin' on it
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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I have strong armed 38.5x14.5 sx's on the con when my ps pump took a ****. it sucks!
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:00 AM
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Yea, but we're (at least, I am) talking about wheeling it with manual, not just driving it down the road to the mall Wheeling with manual sucks, it will rip the wheel right out of your hands. Having real power steering helps a goodly bit. I do agree its not worth it to bother with the power assist.
Dont get me wrong, it's not my first choice, and power is going in as soon as i get my car (95 eclipse) fixed up nice and ready to sell so i insure it and put the truck down for a little while and put in my steering i bought today. wheelin manual sucks, but it beats no steering, right?

Not to steal the thread, but i figured out why my steering sucked so much. silly me to leave the assist cylinder attached to the tie rod when i tore everything out. i left it cause i didnt have a socket big enough at the time. i figured a dry (hoses were even off) cylinder wouldnt make much difference, and i blamed my steering on my tires. well, i took the cylinder off today, and tried to move it and i couldnt. put one end on the ground and all of my weight (195-200 lbs depending whether mitch stops by after work with "mis-orders") on the cylinder and couldnt budge it. Steering is like night and day.

GET POWER STEERING, AND NOT MANUAL OR ASSIST IF POSSIBLE!!!
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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I 2nd, or 3rd, or whatever that motion. I had to deal with dead power steering and 35s for about a month. If blew. After the first turn, not after the first week.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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i will say armstrong steering makes for a heckofa workout depending on what kind of driving your doing.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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i will say armstrong steering makes for a heckofa workout depending on what kind of driving your doing.
not depending, its regardless of what kinda driving
 
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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well, i mean if your doing alot of highway driving i don't really think it's bad. but if your doing alot of stuff around town and parking it really sucks. i would think you could get use to it after awhile and end up with some real pythons. the guy i got my truck from had a 67 f250 with no power steering. this guy was pretty small but he was a total hoss
 
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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yea, I think I'll go w/ the Manual, and if I really don't like it, I'll convert to Power
 
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 08:35 PM
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Ahh, thinking about the good ol' days and my '67 F100, 31's and full manual steering. I was 13 and in order to turn at a stand still I had to put both arms on the wheel, put my feet against the door panel, and heave. I sold it to a friend so i drive it now and then and it's still a workout to drive around town on those "donuts". Power steering definitely has it's place on a 4x4 or any other fullsize truck. Besides that, manual is nice once you start moving.

Justin
 
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