2004 PSD gauges...
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Mountain Pass
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From: So Cal
2004 PSD gauges...
I can feel it coming already but I have already searched and know you guys can provide a quick answer...
I have a 2004 6.0 and want to get an a-pillar gauge setup and would like to know which gauges from Motor Haven I should get and do I need the thermocoupler wire and bushing to be welded to the downpipe? IF so, what length wire is necessary?
Should I get pre and post gauges? I assume post is the important one.
The a-pillar post says up to 2003... will it fit an '04?
Is the 30psi gauge the correct boost gauge to get?
Anyone have the turbo lifesaver? Is it good/worth it?
Here is what I am thinking of getting:
1994 - 2004 Ford Powerstroke Diesel Turbo Lifesaver #16346
http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/p...cat=279&page=1
Grey triple gauge pillar mount. Color matched for 1999-2003 Super Duty #2194
http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/p...cat=192&page=1
ISSPRO Enhanced Visability 0-30 psi Boost Gauge, 2 1/16" face, Mechanical #2175
http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/p...cat=191&page=1
ISSPRO Enhanced Visability Transmission Oil Temp Gauge, 140-320F, 2 1/16" face, electric #2178
http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/p...cat=191&page=1
ISSPRO Enhanced Visability Pyrometer, 2 1/16" face, 100-1500F degrees, post-turbo #2174
http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/p...cat=191&page=1
I have a 2004 6.0 and want to get an a-pillar gauge setup and would like to know which gauges from Motor Haven I should get and do I need the thermocoupler wire and bushing to be welded to the downpipe? IF so, what length wire is necessary?
Should I get pre and post gauges? I assume post is the important one.
The a-pillar post says up to 2003... will it fit an '04?
Is the 30psi gauge the correct boost gauge to get?
Anyone have the turbo lifesaver? Is it good/worth it?
Here is what I am thinking of getting:
1994 - 2004 Ford Powerstroke Diesel Turbo Lifesaver #16346
http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/p...cat=279&page=1
Grey triple gauge pillar mount. Color matched for 1999-2003 Super Duty #2194
http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/p...cat=192&page=1
ISSPRO Enhanced Visability 0-30 psi Boost Gauge, 2 1/16" face, Mechanical #2175
http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/p...cat=191&page=1
ISSPRO Enhanced Visability Transmission Oil Temp Gauge, 140-320F, 2 1/16" face, electric #2178
http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/p...cat=191&page=1
ISSPRO Enhanced Visability Pyrometer, 2 1/16" face, 100-1500F degrees, post-turbo #2174
http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/p...cat=191&page=1
Cargo Master
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Or you could go with the X-Monitor and CES. It has pyro, tranny, and boost all in one compact package that lets you keep your A-Pillar handle. The CES module keeps the motor running until the desired shut-off temp is reached - or the time out value expires.
See my gallery for a photo.
See my gallery for a photo.
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Originally Posted by kemerick
I can feel it coming already but I have already searched and know you guys can provide a quick answer...
I have a 2004 6.0 and want to get an a-pillar gauge setup and would like to know which gauges from Motor Haven I should get and do I need the thermocoupler wire and bushing to be welded to the downpipe? IF so, what length wire is necessary?
Should I get pre and post gauges? I assume post is the important one.
The a-pillar post says up to 2003... will it fit an '04?
Is the 30psi gauge the correct boost gauge to get?
Anyone have the turbo lifesaver? Is it good/worth it?
I have a 2004 6.0 and want to get an a-pillar gauge setup and would like to know which gauges from Motor Haven I should get and do I need the thermocoupler wire and bushing to be welded to the downpipe? IF so, what length wire is necessary?
Should I get pre and post gauges? I assume post is the important one.
The a-pillar post says up to 2003... will it fit an '04?
Is the 30psi gauge the correct boost gauge to get?
Anyone have the turbo lifesaver? Is it good/worth it?
Senior User
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From: Meridian, Idaho
I have the x-monitor and really like it. It is nice and compact, and I got to keep my grab handle. I installed the pyro pre-turbo, in the driver side exhaust manifold as mentioned before. I was worried about drilling and tapping, since I had never done it before, but it went quite smooth with no problems. Installed it with the manifold in place. The wiring was the toughest part for me, but was still pretty simple. I have pics of the install in my gallery. Darylhunter helped talk me through the installation, took me an afternoon plus time for paint to dry.
Cargo Master
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From: Carlsbad, California
You can install the X-Monitor pyro probe either preturbo as both deadfish88 and I have done, or you can install the probe after the turbo.
I believe that this is pretty much true with any pyro probe as the thermocouple is just measuring temperature and doesn't care where it is placed.
Going preturbo gives you the most accurate indication of what kind of temps are being produced on the output of the motor.
There is has been a concern by some about potential probe breakage and subsequent damage to the turbo but once you look at the probe you'll see that it is pretty stout. There haven't been any substantiated reports of probe breakage, so I guess it just depends upon how risk adverse you are. I believe that the majority of folks here have gone preturbo.
If you do go post turbo, put the probe as close to the output of the turbo as you can.
The X-Monitor comes with enough cable on the pyro probe to reach either mounting location.
I believe that this is pretty much true with any pyro probe as the thermocouple is just measuring temperature and doesn't care where it is placed.
Going preturbo gives you the most accurate indication of what kind of temps are being produced on the output of the motor.
There is has been a concern by some about potential probe breakage and subsequent damage to the turbo but once you look at the probe you'll see that it is pretty stout. There haven't been any substantiated reports of probe breakage, so I guess it just depends upon how risk adverse you are. I believe that the majority of folks here have gone preturbo.
If you do go post turbo, put the probe as close to the output of the turbo as you can.
The X-Monitor comes with enough cable on the pyro probe to reach either mounting location.
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Kemerick,
You can see what the ISS gauges would look like in my gallery.
Any setup you choose, will work fine either gauges or X-Monitor , but I agree with the others that you should go Pre-turbo not post....
You can see what the ISS gauges would look like in my gallery.
Any setup you choose, will work fine either gauges or X-Monitor , but I agree with the others that you should go Pre-turbo not post....
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Glad I found this thread I had the same question. I know I want my guage pre-turbo.
Won't the shavings from drilling and tapping the manifold hurt the turbo?
Also I am going to use a mechanical boost guage where is the best spot to plumb this in at?
Won't the shavings from drilling and tapping the manifold hurt the turbo?
Also I am going to use a mechanical boost guage where is the best spot to plumb this in at?
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Originally Posted by Brian460
Glad I found this thread I had the same question. I know I want my guage pre-turbo.
Won't the shavings from drilling and tapping the manifold hurt the turbo?
Also I am going to use a mechanical boost guage where is the best spot to plumb this in at?
Won't the shavings from drilling and tapping the manifold hurt the turbo?
Also I am going to use a mechanical boost guage where is the best spot to plumb this in at?
You can see gauge installation instructions and pictures at:
http://www.dieselmanor.com/diy/PSD3-...D3gauge-p1.htm and at
http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1632828/i/gauge_instructions.pdf
You shouldn't have any trouble...
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From: Snohomish, Washington
Originally Posted by Brian460
Glad I found this thread I had the same question. I know I want my guage pre-turbo.
Won't the shavings from drilling and tapping the manifold hurt the turbo?
Also I am going to use a mechanical boost guage where is the best spot to plumb this in at?
Won't the shavings from drilling and tapping the manifold hurt the turbo?
Also I am going to use a mechanical boost guage where is the best spot to plumb this in at?
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Additional gauges
I'm looking at adding gauges, too. I was thinking of Boost, EGT and oil pressure. Where is the best place to tap into an oil pressue port in the block? I would like to keep the stock gauge functioning.
