This is the third time i have had to post this. So it is brief compared to the first and even the revised and shortened second version.

I hate my turbo. I cant get it off as many of you know. I ame almost 100% postive that there is no 3rd bolt. I can feel the whole mount and there is no 3rd bolt. the 3rd bolt does not exist.

Also, is there a join in the exhaust between the headers and the turbo?
Is there a joint in the exhaust between the turbo downpipe and the first visible joint that is completely under the undercarriage (the first one witht eh two bolts)?

I would have sold my truck by now (as much as I love it) due to the frustration level it has caused me. However, no one will buy a truck will blown headgaskets, so I cant sell it. Therefore it would need to be fixed before I could sell it. But, then It would no longer frusterate me, and would not want to sell it. Catch-22, eh?

 

If you ever do get the turbo off there I will be more than happy to take it from you to prevent this from happening to you ever again! LOL !

 

RawPower, Carbon buildup inside the joints make them come apart kinda hard.
I wish I was closer to Texas I would come over and help or buy your truck if the price was right.
My downpipe just slides into the turbo outlet, it has a bracket that bolts to the bell housing which is all that holds it in place.
The header to turbo is another just slides in joint.
My turbo mount has two bolts to the intake manifold and an O ring into the valley pan for the oil to return through.
My system is an ATS aftermarket turbo system.

Either way I would help you would reduce your frustration/blood pressure levels to something more reasonable.

 

where in texas do you live hoss, i will come help you if your not too far from corpus christi!

 

Aledo, outside of Ft. Worth. Thanks for yalls offers, but Id feel guilty if you did. See! Only two bolts! Aftermarket or not! My downpipe has lots of little 5mm bolts that hold it onto teh turbo itself, but the exhaust pipe to the turbo downpipe is what you said.

But the heat shields on the exhaust going up to the turbo are still on, and there arent any alligator pins holding it on like the turbo's heat shields. Do the heat shields really matter? On either the going up to or exiting the turbo? I plan on leaving the heat shields on the turbo as it is a heat trap, and will try to keep them on the headers-to-turbo pipe, but what about the turbo downpipe-to-muffler piece?

 

You are so right my good man. Turbos suck and you should no longer put up with it. Send it to me and your troubles will be gone. Heck, I'll even pay shipping

 

what make of turbo do you have. if you have an ats go to www.atsdiesel.com click on site map click on the green copyrite icon thing down towards the bootom of the page then click on ford then ya can get a blow up version of the wastegated and non wastegated turbos that they make. that may hlep a little bit

 

The heat shields (held on by the little alligator / cotter pins do not matter.
The 3 bolts I am talking about hold the factory turbo turbine to the back of the air intake into the manifold. The 3 bolts hold the boomerang part to the intake manifold, and to the turbine portion.

The snail is held down by 1 bolt through the top centre. (same bolt holds the soup bowl down on a non-turbo).

The exhaust clamp on mine is really just a 3/4 inch wide clamp that goes over both the lips from the downpipe and the turbo exhaust.

The passenger side exhaust manifold INTO the turbo is like a sleaved (sleeve - like a shirt sleeve spelling) fitting. One tube goes into the other tube, and they are dammed tight due to the carbon crap build up.

Your pain is our pain RawPower. Tonite I will take a few pieces off mine and snap some pictures for you. It may be that we are talking about the completely wrong stuff.

As a side thought, I know up here if you walk into the dealer, they will print off a few pages of teh areas your having trouble with. For instance, I used to have an entire print out of the whole factory turbo. In particular, I asked the dealer to print the page off for me cause I was getting oil leaks from somewhere. Turned out to be the only place oil actually is in the factory turbo, surprise surprise. The page showed all the seals and components. Might help to try that out.

I'll reply as soon as I have some pictures tonite.

 

I don't know about any three bolts on a factory turbo either. There are two that bolt the turbo to the drain casting, that bolts to the back of the intake. It's held on with two bolts also.

Let me see if I can bring up this picture.

 

This kit should be pretty close to yours. See the piece just to the left of center? That bolts on the right hand exhaust manifold with (you guessed it) two bolts. See the shiny part on the downward end of that casting? That is the ball socket that slides into the next casting (the elbow piece under the valve cover). This bolts to the exhaust side of the turbo with four bolts. Dead center is the drain casting that bolts to the intake and supports the turbo under the center section with two studs and nuts.
Hope this sheds some light on your problem.

 

Ok, I got like 40 pics of most of what I could reach.

Anyone know how to post them?
My posting rules says I cannot post attachments.

 

You need to get them on the internet somewhere, then use the insert picture button and paste in the URL.

 

I was talking about the drain casting the whole time. 2 BOLTS? Thats what I thought. Unless you mean 3 bolts to the block and two bolts into the turbo. Man, the PSDs turbos go on and off so much easier, 2 bolts on the top of the turbo that go down through it to hte block.

I will be discarding the heat shields.

 

Actually there's only two holding it to the back of the intake also.

 

4 bolts. Not 3... opps...
There are two holding the drain casing (my boomarang) to the intake.
2 more bolts on the other end hold the boomerang to the turbo itself.

I got messed up cause I must have had the two connecting the turbo bolted together as one unit, THEN made the attempt to bolt the 2 on the back of the intake.

RAWPOWER - send an email to

brian_the_fist (a) hotmail.com

don't forget the underscores....

I'll zip the pics and send them all to you. That goes for anyone else as well. I have some EEC tester pics as well. Until I get a website up (been looking into that since 1995 now....) that will have to do.

Any progress on the turbo removal BTW??

Don't forget to remove the oil pressure sending tube from the turbo as well. (the tube that is behind the drain casing). Just those exhaust clamps is all. The exhaust is PRESSED into the pipe, no bolts to remove on the passenger side (my pics show that). The 'y' pipe stays with the exhaust portion.

Again, I am sorry dude, I got messed up with the 2 bolts to the turbo thinking they were just one. Probably cause they are a pain inthe ***, and you want them to only be one... Won't happen again.