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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Here's the nightmare...

So I have a 1994 F-150 Flareside which now displaces a sweet 460 coming through the hood and I can't get the right starter for it. I've already cut a foot out of the frame and have fabricated a makeshift jig to hold the frame where it is. The problem is no matter how much I trim off of the starter, my headers won't fit. I'm using a set of Hedman headers that I've already welded header cutouts on and ceramic coated so I'd rather not cut them. I bought a starter with a solenoid on top knowing I didn't need another solenoid since mine is on the firewall and now I'm up against a wall unless somebody knows of the EXACT starter I should use for this swap. Shoe-horning a 460 into a 94 F-150 was tough enough but this is killing me. Should I just buy the $160 high torque mini starter with the eighteen hole adjustability and the solenoid on bottom or hang it up and install a huge pull starter rope? Once again, thanks for your input and time!
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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i would think the mini starter would be the way to go.i dont care how big a guy is it would be pretty hard to pull the rope be kinda funny to watch tho lol
 
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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Hate to tell ya, but bite the 160 dollar bullit, a mini starter is your best choice without cutting the headers----

Harley has a big kick starter, that would be easier then a rope, but you better be one big dude.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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Jezz, guys, don't get carried away - ford built a starter crank for their trucks - was standard in the Model T's, and an option for the Model A trucks. Just get one of those and drill a hole through your core support!
 
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 12:07 AM
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I'd get one from a late 70s truck with a 400 in it... same starter, no solenoid on it... shouldn't be more than $40.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Thanks for your experience and expertise. I'll check it out.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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You can try the real late model pmgr starters they are a lot smaller.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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unfortunately the starters without the solenoid on it will not work unless you also get the bellhousing from the older truck also. and if you go that route getting a new bellhousing then you would have to get one from an 84-90 whatever so you can retain the hydraulic clutch wich you might have to get the older slave cylinder also to mount on the bellhousing. but then I'm assuming you're using the zf transmission so you're kinda sol on that front also.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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Sorry, guys. I should have mentioned the tranny is a 74 model C6 automatic. Thanks again for your input!
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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Then the 400 starter should work...
 
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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yea definitely try the one from a 74, did you have any problem's with the header's hitting the side of the tranny? I'm just wondering because when I did a swap like that and originally was trying to use a 78 bellhousing (manual transmission) I had a problem with the bell itself hitting.
either way the one starter that you describe with the solenoid on top of it is what is offered originally on that truck if you had the late model tranny. it shouldn't even bolt up to your bellhousing(and if it will it definitely won't line up with the flexplate properly) definitely go with the older starter.
good luck

P.S. if that starter doesn't work and you're willing to sell your current header's and buy new one's (probably not) Hooker's 6911-hkr or 6911-1hkr would work
 

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