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It depends alot on the compression rating, if it requires high octane because it is a high compression engine (which some newer engines are to get the HP they have them at), running regular could cause detonation that you may or may not hear. Detonation will hurt or destroy these engines in time. If they say premium, it isent worth the chance of destroying your engine.
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I've run super premium (94 is the best we get in Canada) for years in my motorcycles for that very reason -- high compression engines. I hadn't heard of premium being recommended for 4-wheelers. What kind of vehicles are we talking about here? Import cars or Ford trucks? In recent years my bikes have always been upwards of 11:1 so using premium seemed like a pretty good idea. How high are these new 4-wheelers really at?
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Originally Posted by kruisin66
A lot of new vehicles are requiring Premium fuel. At $2.20 and up per gallon, will these new vehicles run OK on regular?
It will depend if your car has knock sensors, and whether you like the sound of pinging or not...
If your engine is designed to run on premium, and you run on regular, what it will do is the engine will start pinging - pre igniting the fuel, it should not cause any damage to modern cars, but in older cars with high compression, it may destroy the surface of your piston head and valves.
The knock sensor will detect this "pinging" - depending on how sensitive it is set - and retard the ignition timing of the engine.
This will cause a drop in power of approx 10% or so - again depending on how the car is set up, some will retard up to 25%!!! - and because of this drop in power, fuel economy also gets worse.
I know with my car it is worth paying the extra 10% more for 98 over 91, because I get approx 15-20% worse fuel economy, not to mention the power drop. It has also enabled me to "desensitize" the knock sensor, as I know I will be putting 98 in it all the time, if by chance the engine "pings" a little when it gets hot, it will not retard the ignition timing at all, therefore more power for me
Anyhow, hope that answers some of your questions...
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I started to get some knock in my '96 TC (with the 4.6) using 87, so I switched to 89. That helped for awhile, but the knock came back, so I went to 91. When THAT no longer helped, I mentioned it to one of our service advisors. Before I even finished the sentence, he stopped me and said: "you need a new mass airflow sensor." Replaced it and she now runs perfect on 87, and my mileage is the best it's ever been (avg. 23-24). Moral of the story: if it's designed to run on 87 and it's knocking, it may be more than just the grade of fuel.
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Originally Posted by BigF350
...the engine will start pinging - pre igniting the fuel, it should not cause any damage to modern cars