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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Y-block to something else

My first time here. I have a 61 F750 with 30000 miles on it. Was a fire truck, now a farm truck. It has a 332HD Y-block, a NP534 5-speed and an Eaton single speed axle with a 5.34 ratio. The engine appears to be completely obsolete, NO parts avalable. I tried Y-block.com, got some good advice, but still NO parts avalable.
Does anyone know a more modern engine to bolt to a Y-block bell housing. Most of the driving is on county roads, not much highway. I do pull a fertilizer buggy and load it to capacity (22000) from time to time.
I'm looking for a basic no-frills engine swap. I need to get it on the road again, the pigs are getting hungry.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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Welcome to FTE!

I have heard that an FE will bolt up to that bellhousing. Not entirely sure on that though. But it'd be worth a shot, as there are plenty of 390's around in F250's that would work great in there.

There are also plenty of parts available for them. Not as many as a 302 mind you, but enough to build it up for whatever you need it to do.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Thanks, I'll try that. I scrapped out a 76 F 250 several years ago. Ended up selling the 360 for $50 just to get it out of the way.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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an fe will not bolt up.however an fe bell will fit your trans.what you need is a complete fe motor from a truck around the same size as yours.they started using them in 64.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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Your motor is a Lincoln Y block which is totally different then the Ford Y block,there are a few of those motors in a couple of junkyards I frequent and they are basicly the same motors that were in 52 to 57 lincolns. If you want to go with a FE motor I have a bellhousing and front motor mount from a mid 60s FT motor that will bolt in a FE motor in a big truck chassis,the only differences are that a FT motor used a longer clutch assembly then a FE does so a longer throw out bearing will be needed or a longer rod from the fork to the Z bar when used with a FE. The bellhousing and mount were given to me so its free to anyone who would need it but you will have to pick it up or pay the shipping which might be expensive as its heavy.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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I forgot that the one junkyard that I frequent might have a 534 in a mid 60s F800,that would perk up your 61
 
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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Thanks for the offer

Thanks for the offer. I am trying really hard to avoid swapping the engine. The only real problem with the engine is a distributor and carburetor that need to be rebuilt or replaced. Unfortunately, I haven't had any luck so far.
Right now there is an old guy in town that says he might be able to update the distributor by making his own parts and gaskets. If that works, a generic carburetor would work. It's a looongshot, but cheaper and easier than another engine.
I also need to get a "back-up" truck. Its probably not realistic to be depending on such an old truck for day-to-day use.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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Does yours have a 2 or 4 bbl carb?,I have seen some of those motors with 4 bbls and I know of a 61 to 64 bus in a junkyard that has your motor and still has the 4 bbl intake on it. I am trying to get a friend to buy that inatke for his 54 lincoln but if he wont I might get for anyone interested. I have seen some of the 53 to 55 big ford trucks with your motor with a 2 bbl that has the same bolt pattern for a GM 2 bbl carb and the junkyard that has the bus has a 53 F700? dumptruck with a GM carb on it. I could get you a distributor if you cant repair yours as the bus still has it and another junkyard has one or two of those motors in some trucks also.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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if your engine has the right intake it just takes a holley.you can get one anywhere.
 
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Distributor

The truck has a holly 4bbl with a governor, and a C0TF "dual advance dist with intergral governor". I'm almost certain they are factory.

I have a 1970 shop mannual, part 22 shows a section view of a dist that looks like mine. It has centrifugal weights under the breaker plate. One of the pivot posts on my dist is broken, the weight has a groove worn in it. That would probably explain why it gets stuck sometimes.
This dist doesn't have a vacuum diaphram on the outside with a movable breaker plate. The breaker plate and points are fixed in place and the vacuum line enters lower down on the body. The vacuum passage goes through the center of the shaft itself and to a "sliding weight" that is on a small shaft that is perpendicular to the dist shaft and just under the centrifugal weights. It also has an adjusting nut for the sliding weight. There are two vacuum lines to the carb, I don't know what the second one does.
Right now I have three distributors laid out on the bench. The one I'm trying to fix, a dist from an old 460, and a dist for a lincoln 332 that I bought. They all turn CCW. I read that the 332 dist turned the opposit direction, but apparently not. The 460 and lincoln dist are like most other dist that I have ever seen. The dual advance dist with intergral governor is different, and has me stumped.
The plan now is to fix the centrifugal weight on the original dist by soldering the pivot post, and transfer the moveable breaker plate and diaphram assembly from the lincoln dist. Then disable the old vacuum part, it's broken anyway.
I have a new Holly 4bbl (somewhere) that I got for this truck in 1999, before I knew that it wouldn't work with this dist. Fixing the dist and changing the carb should get it going. It's a good truck, and worth the effort. It's also worth another engine if all this doesn't work.
 

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