new 4.2?
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Tom, the doors were just slightly longer, the mini-xtra cab section was still there, the gimp-door was replaced with a slightly smaller body panel.
After seeing that little snippet of info about no more Lightning, I feel sad, to say the least. A little more research and it's been confirmed.
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101065
Anyhow, here's the prototype that I was basing all my info on. (below)
http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/fordlightningconcept.html
Armand
After seeing that little snippet of info about no more Lightning, I feel sad, to say the least. A little more research and it's been confirmed.
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101065
Anyhow, here's the prototype that I was basing all my info on. (below)
http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/fordlightningconcept.html
Armand
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Its a good pipe dream...I guess I am a little bitter at ford, mostly with the new body style, and their crappy claims. Yes, the new stang in perty, and has 300 HP...do they mention they added like 400 pounds of weight? No.
Yes, the new f150 is torquey, do they mention their single cab, short bed configuration weighs more than my SCAB XLT? No. Just kind of disappointed in their marketing and the reality of the new trucks and what not....
*Tangent off*
Garrett
Yes, the new f150 is torquey, do they mention their single cab, short bed configuration weighs more than my SCAB XLT? No. Just kind of disappointed in their marketing and the reality of the new trucks and what not....
*Tangent off*
Garrett
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I happen to like the new body style of the f150. The supercrews lifted on 38's just look plain HARD! the supercabs and scabs look cool too, lifted, or slammed to the ground on big chrome wheels. The interiors are neat-o
I just don't like how tall they look, like how the bed is deeper but shorter, and the door panels are like, 12 feet tall...
But overall i think they are alright....
Comparing it to the Nissan Titan? Come on, now! The new nissan's winshield and hood are about 3 degrees different from each other, its like a minivan with a bed. Sure, they are supposedly great trucks, but they are UGLY. I personally am not a fan of japanese trucks, I guess they are getting better. I think the tundra's interior looks like it came out of a 1980 toyota minivan or something of the like. And this is coming from someone who used to own a tacoma, and love the hell out of hondas, rice rockets and all cars japanese. I still think honda makes a great car, but Ford has stolen my heart...
I just don't like how tall they look, like how the bed is deeper but shorter, and the door panels are like, 12 feet tall...
But overall i think they are alright....
Comparing it to the Nissan Titan? Come on, now! The new nissan's winshield and hood are about 3 degrees different from each other, its like a minivan with a bed. Sure, they are supposedly great trucks, but they are UGLY. I personally am not a fan of japanese trucks, I guess they are getting better. I think the tundra's interior looks like it came out of a 1980 toyota minivan or something of the like. And this is coming from someone who used to own a tacoma, and love the hell out of hondas, rice rockets and all cars japanese. I still think honda makes a great car, but Ford has stolen my heart...
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In response to your guy's view on the new 2004/2005 trucks weight... Did it ever occur to you that there may be people out there that wants the extra weight? Out here there is a ton of heavy and light oil production, and operators are out checking wells everday. EVERYDAY. So that means in blizzards, rain, whatever. In snow, previous generation fords seemed to light on the front end, and tryed to float over snow banks. Usually resutling in hard to control and or the nose planted in the bank when it borke through. Lots of operators switched to dodges because they still retained a heavy front axle up front and broke through the banks to get where traction was good and control was stable. So...in the end, oil feild guys are liking the new F-150 for operating, they said they can feel extra weight and thats what the trucks needed. So since we have about 7 or so months of winter here, these trucks have to be quite capable, and thats exactly what they are.
Anyways, I wouldn't mind a redesigned 4.2. Make a lot of sense to me to have a v6 kicking around. Just need to up the hp a bit to compensate for the added weight. Just my opinion.
Anyways, I wouldn't mind a redesigned 4.2. Make a lot of sense to me to have a v6 kicking around. Just need to up the hp a bit to compensate for the added weight. Just my opinion.
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Its not so much the weight...its the fact that they advertise it as having all this hp and trq. its simply to compensate the added weight and whatnot. You do make a valid point, i think, because Ive never lived in weather that bad...BUT...
How many people out there bought an f150, new style, because the nose is heavy and good for snow? Id be surprised to see if there any more than 10 on this site that liked its snow/bad weather traction. Besides...if you want a heavy truck, f250 is a great work truck.
IMHO of course...
Garrett
How many people out there bought an f150, new style, because the nose is heavy and good for snow? Id be surprised to see if there any more than 10 on this site that liked its snow/bad weather traction. Besides...if you want a heavy truck, f250 is a great work truck.
IMHO of course...
Garrett
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I never heard of anything so rediculous. Purposely adding weight to the front of a vehicle so it has better traction in snow, sorry but... no freakin' way.
If anything, people usually put sandbags in the bed to get better traction. But you don't see truck manufacturers welding metal weighted plates in the bed to make the bed heavier so it gets better traction in the snow.
Engineers are supposed to make vehicles stronger AND lighter at the same time using modern technology and sofisticated engeneering with the latest technology in materials. Not to convert back 60 years and toss on chunks of heavy raw steel in order to make a truck sink into the snow better.
That's the most stupid thing i've ever heard. And if that's ford's R&D departments thinking, then they all need to be fired.
If anything, people usually put sandbags in the bed to get better traction. But you don't see truck manufacturers welding metal weighted plates in the bed to make the bed heavier so it gets better traction in the snow.
Engineers are supposed to make vehicles stronger AND lighter at the same time using modern technology and sofisticated engeneering with the latest technology in materials. Not to convert back 60 years and toss on chunks of heavy raw steel in order to make a truck sink into the snow better.
That's the most stupid thing i've ever heard. And if that's ford's R&D departments thinking, then they all need to be fired.
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if you notice, it almost looks as if the engine is pushed forward a bit more as to balance the weight over over the center of the front wheels. This also adds more room to the cab. Those are just my observations.