Rotella Synthetic
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I recently went to Rotella T synthetic for the winter performance. I beat the romp by only filling the crancase with 13.5 quarts. I see no increase in mileage for synthetic over dino oil. I would run 10W-30 in winter except I cant find it. I think I will go back to dino oil
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For those of you that like Rotella, I found something interesting on their website. Any of the synthetic Rotellas only have the API rating of CI-4. The dino Rotella has the newest and most advanced rating of CI-4 Plus. The Plus is to do with the newer EGR engines that introduce the exhaust crap back into the clean intake & then re-burned. The engines have to have the better rating for "more stringent soot handling capability." The Plus also has a desirable property which is an upgraded sheer stability. I guess the rating just came out in Sept so we'll see how long it takes for others to play catch-up. Take care.
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Shell's website claims that it is a full synthetic. See link below:
http://www.shell-lubricants.com/prod...TSynthetic.pdf
http://www.shell-lubricants.com/prod...TSynthetic.pdf
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Originally Posted by Rick Braden
For those of you that like Rotella, I found something interesting on their website. Any of the synthetic Rotellas only have the API rating of CI-4. The dino Rotella has the newest and most advanced rating of CI-4 Plus. The Plus is to do with the newer EGR engines that introduce the exhaust crap back into the clean intake & then re-burned. The engines have to have the better rating for "more stringent soot handling capability." The Plus also has a desirable property which is an upgraded sheer stability. I guess the rating just came out in Sept so we'll see how long it takes for others to play catch-up. Take care.
Straight from the Shell Rotella web site: http://www.rotella.com
Shell ROTELLA® T Synthetic 5W-40 is a fully synthetic, heavy-duty engine oil.
Specifications and approvals
ROTELLA® T Synthetic 5W-40 meets or exceeds all requirements of API CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF; and SL; Cummins CES 20078 (extended drain); Mack EO-N Premium Plus ‘03 (extended drain); Detroit Diesel, Dodge, Ford, International, Navistar and Volvo.
Non Synthetic version information (Dino)
Shell ROTELLA T Multigrade SAE 15W-40
API CI-4 ready
For diesel engines, ROTELLA® T 15W-40 exceeds the requirements of Global DHD-1, API CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4 and CF; Mack EO-N Premium Plus, EO-M Plus; Cummins CES 20078, 20077 and 20076; Caterpillar, Detroit Diesel, John Deere, International, Volvo VDS-2 and others. For gasoline engines, it exceeds API SL, SJ and SH.
Last edited by Hawkins; Oct 20, 2004 at 10:28 AM. Reason: More information
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Hawkins, I went to their website again & when I click on "technical specifications" I find again that the ROTELLA T synthetic does not display the CI-4 Plus & when I click on ROTELLA T non-syn, & click on "technical specifications" it shows the dino has CI-4 Plus. It only talks about the "advanced soot control" with the ROTELLA dino. Where are you finding the opposite. Maybe there's more that I am missing, Thanks, Rick
Originally Posted by Hawkins
I think you posted your information based on the Dino version and not the Synthetic version. (Dino version is not CI-4 Plus synthetic is)
Straight from the Shell Rotella web site: http://www.rotella.com
Shell ROTELLA® T Synthetic 5W-40 is a fully synthetic, heavy-duty engine oil.
Specifications and approvals
ROTELLA® T Synthetic 5W-40 meets or exceeds all requirements of API CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF; and SL; Cummins CES 20078 (extended drain); Mack EO-N Premium Plus ‘03 (extended drain); Detroit Diesel, Dodge, Ford, International, Navistar and Volvo.
Non Synthetic version information (Dino)
Shell ROTELLA T Multigrade SAE 15W-40
API CI-4 ready
For diesel engines, ROTELLA® T 15W-40 exceeds the requirements of Global DHD-1, API CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4 and CF; Mack EO-N Premium Plus, EO-M Plus; Cummins CES 20078, 20077 and 20076; Caterpillar, Detroit Diesel, John Deere, International, Volvo VDS-2 and others. For gasoline engines, it exceeds API SL, SJ and SH.
Straight from the Shell Rotella web site: http://www.rotella.com
Shell ROTELLA® T Synthetic 5W-40 is a fully synthetic, heavy-duty engine oil.
Specifications and approvals
ROTELLA® T Synthetic 5W-40 meets or exceeds all requirements of API CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF; and SL; Cummins CES 20078 (extended drain); Mack EO-N Premium Plus ‘03 (extended drain); Detroit Diesel, Dodge, Ford, International, Navistar and Volvo.
Non Synthetic version information (Dino)
Shell ROTELLA T Multigrade SAE 15W-40
API CI-4 ready
For diesel engines, ROTELLA® T 15W-40 exceeds the requirements of Global DHD-1, API CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4 and CF; Mack EO-N Premium Plus, EO-M Plus; Cummins CES 20078, 20077 and 20076; Caterpillar, Detroit Diesel, John Deere, International, Volvo VDS-2 and others. For gasoline engines, it exceeds API SL, SJ and SH.
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FWIW, Rotella Synthetic is a dino Gp III and Gp II+ oil. Iy is not a PAO basestock like Delvac 1, Amsoil, etc. It is more like Castrols Syntec. A dino but with a hydrogen molecule attached which makes it legally a synthetic. All tests I have seen on it shows it to be a good performer in the wear metals arena. It is not designed or intended to be used for extended oil changes.
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Flash, Thanks for the info. I'm at the point now where the Gp ??? means nothing to me. Can you suggest a website etc that may educate me about what you're talking about. Thanks, Rick
Originally Posted by Flash
FWIW, Rotella Synthetic is a dino Gp III and Gp II+ oil. Iy is not a PAO basestock like Delvac 1, Amsoil, etc. It is more like Castrols Syntec. A dino but with a hydrogen molecule attached which makes it legally a synthetic. All tests I have seen on it shows it to be a good performer in the wear metals arena. It is not designed or intended to be used for extended oil changes.
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Yes and Yes.
The rotella synthetic is definetely worth the money over the dino oil especially in the 6.0 motors.
The 6.0 is a Smaller and harder working motor with more stress than the lower powered larger displacement 7.3's
There are many old mentality naysayers out there.
Investigate the facts and it is more than clear that synthetic is a far better choice than regular dino oils.
The rotella synthetic is definetely worth the money over the dino oil especially in the 6.0 motors.
The 6.0 is a Smaller and harder working motor with more stress than the lower powered larger displacement 7.3's
There are many old mentality naysayers out there.
Investigate the facts and it is more than clear that synthetic is a far better choice than regular dino oils.
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