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Ok, here's what I'm asking for. Thanks in advance.
I'm doing a project for a senior level economics class (Here at Texas A&M...Whoop!) (which studies cooperatives), and I need some help from those of you who are involved in the trucking industry, especially those of you who are independent owner/operators.
The project is one which proposes to build a diesel fuel cooperative. In this business, truckers who use it would buy a membership in the cooperative, and in return would recieve stock in the company, as well as reduced prices. The beauty of this would be that the more fuel you buy the larger dividend you recieve from your ownership.
Ok...even if this business wouldn't work, or you don't understand it (I did a horrible job of explaining it) just help me by giving your feelings on these questions.
1. How much diesel fuel do you (an independent owner/operator) purchase in a month?
2. Would you prefer to have less service in a fueling station if it meant your fuel costs were lower?
3. Would you be interested in the idea of getting back some of the money you spend in fuel?
4. What (besides price) draws you to a truck stop? (i.e. facilities...etc.)
NOTE: I'm not going to try building this thing, this isn't solicitation of your business...this is PURELY for the purpose of a class project.
Thanks
Ryan
I'm doing a project for a senior level economics class (Here at Texas A&M...Whoop!) (which studies cooperatives), and I need some help from those of you who are involved in the trucking industry, especially those of you who are independent owner/operators.
The project is one which proposes to build a diesel fuel cooperative. In this business, truckers who use it would buy a membership in the cooperative, and in return would recieve stock in the company, as well as reduced prices. The beauty of this would be that the more fuel you buy the larger dividend you recieve from your ownership.
Ok...even if this business wouldn't work, or you don't understand it (I did a horrible job of explaining it) just help me by giving your feelings on these questions.
1. How much diesel fuel do you (an independent owner/operator) purchase in a month?
2. Would you prefer to have less service in a fueling station if it meant your fuel costs were lower?
3. Would you be interested in the idea of getting back some of the money you spend in fuel?
4. What (besides price) draws you to a truck stop? (i.e. facilities...etc.)
NOTE: I'm not going to try building this thing, this isn't solicitation of your business...this is PURELY for the purpose of a class project.
Thanks
Ryan
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When running flatbeds, I buy approximately 550 gallons of fuel, per truck per month.
as a general rule, there is no service in a fueling station.. pump it yourself, pay at the desk, or card reader.
It is always nice to get dividend on fuel payments
somewhere to eat, get clean, stretch, look at goodies, see if anyone has anything different, get supplies.. I usually do not get fuel at the truck stops I use. more often, I get fuel from a dedicated fuel stop.. no facilities, just a card reader, and me.
as a general rule, there is no service in a fueling station.. pump it yourself, pay at the desk, or card reader.
It is always nice to get dividend on fuel payments
somewhere to eat, get clean, stretch, look at goodies, see if anyone has anything different, get supplies.. I usually do not get fuel at the truck stops I use. more often, I get fuel from a dedicated fuel stop.. no facilities, just a card reader, and me.
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Originally Posted by rkshipley
1. How much diesel fuel do you (an independent owner/operator) purchase in a month?
2. Would you prefer to have less service in a fueling station if it meant your fuel costs were lower?
3. Would you be interested in the idea of getting back some of the money you spend in fuel?
4. What (besides price) draws you to a truck stop? (i.e. facilities...etc.)
2. Would you prefer to have less service in a fueling station if it meant your fuel costs were lower?
3. Would you be interested in the idea of getting back some of the money you spend in fuel?
4. What (besides price) draws you to a truck stop? (i.e. facilities...etc.)
2) Less service? How much less can it get? All we have now is the fuel pumps, windshield brush that everyone washes their trucks with & a small store with junk food & toilets with urine on the floor & seats.
3) Yep. But wait. We already get most of our money back that we purchase for fuel. It is called tax write offs. Anything that you purchase for the purpose of business or income can be written off on taxes 100%.
4) Ummmmm, a parking spot that I can actually get into in the middle of the night & not have to worry about my hood or mirrors being gone when I wake up. The lot L......, your to young for me to complete that word. And that strange guy on the CB radio that doesn't have his pink panties on.
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Originally Posted by theologian
When running flatbeds, I buy approximately 550 gallons of fuel, per truck per month.
even if you got 8 mpg (very good mileage) you would only average 4400 miles driven on 550 gallons of fuel.
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When I ran Flatbeds (for a national carrier), it wasn't unusual for me to burn ~500 gal/week. For me it was a matter of fueling at only the company-wide mandated fuel stops...When I ran for a local carrier, it was about the cheapest price!
The things that I personally look for in a Truck (fuel) Stop is...*Clean* and some services (meaning laundry, shower, ...), but I will pump my own fuel! I would prefer a place that isn't full-service...the time it takes me to fuel up, wash windows/mirrors, and check the oil is a good time and oppertunity to strech! (a couple of cents a gallon difference doesn't seem to matter...fuel prices differ by 2-3 cents within 50 miles)...
Money back is always a good thing, anytime I can get some back...it's a good thing!
if you need some more info...email me
The things that I personally look for in a Truck (fuel) Stop is...*Clean* and some services (meaning laundry, shower, ...), but I will pump my own fuel! I would prefer a place that isn't full-service...the time it takes me to fuel up, wash windows/mirrors, and check the oil is a good time and oppertunity to strech! (a couple of cents a gallon difference doesn't seem to matter...fuel prices differ by 2-3 cents within 50 miles)...
Money back is always a good thing, anytime I can get some back...it's a good thing!
if you need some more info...email me
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i run threw about 500gal a week.and havent found a real truck stop in years now all we got is travel plazas that dont give a damn about truckers if they did they wouldnt charge 13bucks for a cheeseburger so the only reason is out of necesity the money back thing well like someone said taxrite off and some of these travel plaza's will give ya a 1-2cent a gal kick back if you use there point card. i better stop here before i go on and on and get edited lol
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Thanks for the help, I assure you it's much appreciated. hI feel for you guys, I'm not a trucker, but I drive long distances a lot, and I (as a poor college student) generally just pull into a truckstop or rest area and catch some zzzz's when I'm feelin' drowsy (hotel?...what's that?), it's nice to know you guys are around (and the idling diesels put me to sleep).
Again, thanks for the help, I'm putting together a business model for this fuel cooperative, and since I'm relatively unfamiliar with the industry, I appreciate any help I can get.
Again, thanks for the help, I'm putting together a business model for this fuel cooperative, and since I'm relatively unfamiliar with the industry, I appreciate any help I can get.
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Originally Posted by parks911
1) A Company or O/O fuel purchases vary. I think it would be safe saying right around 2800 gallons on average per truck. That is figuring around 3500 miles driven per week at 5 mpg.
2) Less service? How much less can it get? All we have now is the fuel pumps, windshield brush that everyone washes their trucks with & a small store with junk food & toilets with urine on the floor & seats.
3) Yep. But wait. We already get most of our money back that we purchase for fuel. It is called tax write offs. Anything that you purchase for the purpose of business or income can be written off on taxes 100%.
4) Ummmmm, a parking spot that I can actually get into in the middle of the night & not have to worry about my hood or mirrors being gone when I wake up. The lot L......, your to young for me to complete that word. And that strange guy on the CB radio that doesn't have his pink panties on.
2) Less service? How much less can it get? All we have now is the fuel pumps, windshield brush that everyone washes their trucks with & a small store with junk food & toilets with urine on the floor & seats.
3) Yep. But wait. We already get most of our money back that we purchase for fuel. It is called tax write offs. Anything that you purchase for the purpose of business or income can be written off on taxes 100%.
4) Ummmmm, a parking spot that I can actually get into in the middle of the night & not have to worry about my hood or mirrors being gone when I wake up. The lot L......, your to young for me to complete that word. And that strange guy on the CB radio that doesn't have his pink panties on.
ROFLMAO
John
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Originally Posted by parks911
you didn't work to hard then did you.
even if you got 8 mpg (very good mileage) you would only average 4400 miles driven on 550 gallons of fuel.
even if you got 8 mpg (very good mileage) you would only average 4400 miles driven on 550 gallons of fuel.
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anywhere from 400-600 gallons a week. The "less service" it honestly can't get any less, whats worse is when you have some hungover ******* that doesn't want to be there working behind the counter. Of course, lower fuel prices the better. Flyin Hook has 3 cents a gallon off if you pay cash, even though it is a dive, I stop for cheap fuel. As far as where to stop, I really don't care. If the fuel is cheap I stop, or if they have a good CB shop in case of a problem. Most of the time I stop where it is clean if I have to do anything besides buy fuel, from a layover or whatever. But 95% time the only reason I stop is becuase of fuel, layover, or waiting for the scales to shutdown.
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1. 150 gallons every other day, 10-12,000 miles a month at 4.5 to 5 MPG
2. less service?? Pump your own, wash your own windows, check your own oil. The days of "service" even for 4 wheelers died eons ago.
3. Like Parks911 said it's all a write off if it $2 or $5
4. Decent food not the same old menu where ever you stop, every T/A, Petro etc has the same menu. Clean rest rooms, parking and a way to avoid Gary IN, Sky bridge over Chicago and forget NY City exists.
2. less service?? Pump your own, wash your own windows, check your own oil. The days of "service" even for 4 wheelers died eons ago.
3. Like Parks911 said it's all a write off if it $2 or $5
4. Decent food not the same old menu where ever you stop, every T/A, Petro etc has the same menu. Clean rest rooms, parking and a way to avoid Gary IN, Sky bridge over Chicago and forget NY City exists.
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