Putting in Infinity kappa 5 1/4's in all doors.....for the front door how hard is it to replace? Does the tweeter fit in the same spot as the stock or do i have to work to get it done? Also i know the back doors do not have the tweets so i am just going to put those on the outside of the door panel. Any ideas thoughts suggestions? ...Thanks!

 

See this thread https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=265528

 

My question would be...why the overkill in the rear? There's no need to go with the high dollar speakers in the rear when, if done for proper soundstaging, the rears should be there for fill only.

The ideal budget setup would be your component speakers in the front with crossovers, decent 5x7/6x8" aftermarket speakers in the rear (no need for high end, high dollar speakers here, just something better than OEM i.e. Infinity, Rockford Fosgate, Kicker, Pioneer, Kenwood, etc.), and a sub and amp. The sub wouldn't need to be any earth-shaking, rattle-you-out-of-your-seat sub, just something that would handle all of your low end sound. You do not want your door speakers trying to reproduce your low tones. The amp would just need to be enough to properly drive the sub.

Even if you didn't want to go the sub route, the rear speakers do not need to be in the same league as the front. You want the instruments to sound like they are in front of you, not behind you.

On the other hand...if you don't care about proper soundstaging and just want a lot of high volume sound, throw all of what I said out the window. I do think that you would appreciate quality sound with proper soundstaging more than just high volume.

 

I will be going just for high sound if i put components in the front and rear doors? Doing it in this manner will make it sound worse? Can my premier 860mp handle the 4 components and use a amp/subwoofer ......i had a pioneer before that i powered a pair of component polks and then standard good polks 5x7 in the rear and the bass was sufficient. i am not looking for knocking the glasses off of someone next to me. Now my thinking in the rear doors with the components was for any passengers i have back their. What i am worried about is will the deck handle the 4 components well enough or should do i NEED to get a 4 ch amp to power those better? My deck puts out 22rms to 4....what do you or anyone think? I have a cheapy sub box that sometime might be fun to hook up when i want but other than that usually the door 5 1/4s are good enough for me. Any more suggestions?

 

Well, the head unit will power it just fine at 22rms, but you will always get cleaner and more crisp signals out of a powered amp. In fact, many speakers really do not come alive until they get decent clean power heading their way. All you really need for lows is a sub in the area of 8 to 10 inch depending on where you can hide it. If you bought a nice 4ch amp you could power your fronts and bridge 2 channels into mono for the sub. Or just buy another small amp for the separately. Does your head unit have a mono/sub RCA output? This makes it very easy to filter out all the highs and meds from going to your sub. Good luck...wish I had the coin to throw into the stereo!

T

 

Here are the audio specs or features on my HU:

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So what do you reccomend on ways of amp/sub issues thanks!



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Depends on the specs of the components whether they will sound decent running off of headunit power only. Some components require a high amount of power, some don't. Regardless, they will sound better running off of a separate amp.

As for your rear passengers, who's gonna be in the truck more? You, the driver, or rear seat passengers? Who do you want to please more, the driver or the rear seat passengers? Even if you go with coaxial speakers in the rear, the soundstage will be proper for the rear seat passengers. It will not sound AS GOOD in the rear seat, but it will still be properly configured. If you put components in the rear equal to the components in the front, they will be competing against each other to provide the proper soundstage which would eliminate proper soundstaging all together.

Truckasaurus has it right. The setup I'm currently installing is Focal Polyglass 5 1/4" components in front running off of a 2 channel amp. Rear speakers are Polk Audio 5x7" running off of deck power on the rear channels. I have an 8" Rockford Fosgate sub that will be running off of another 2 channel amp bridged mono. My headunit has the 3 sets of RCA preouts with the front amp hooked to the front preout, nothing on the rear preout, and the sub amp hooked to the sub preout. The front preout will have have all-pass filtering set on it and the crossovers will filter out the low notes. The sub preout will have low pass filter applied to it so the highs and mids will not be passed to the sub, or I will let all pass and apply low pass filtering at the amp itself. The only reason I'm going with this configuration is because I already had the two separate amps. Otherwise, I would have bought a 4 channel amp and bridged the two rear channels for the sub. The two separate amps did allow me to mount them in different locations so that I have shorter wire runs.

 

Where are you putting these amps without taking away from usable space? I cant put anything under my two front seats because their is the air duct their. I have the super cab and i like the ability to lift the back seats up to get more room if i have to carry something so i prefer not to put anything back there. Where else? Anyhow i am putting in infinity kappas 5 1/4 and there rating is **power range 2-85 watts RMS** so will i be ok with that on my HU for now? Regardless you would recomend powering the rear door speaks with the HU and the front speaker with an amp ..and a subwoofer with an amp. Is there one amp i can use to do all of that ...thats not so huge i'll have everything glowing for someone to steal? They have a clarion for 119 at crutchfield right now thats a 4 ch amp ..not sure if thats anygood or not. Or if it works with my 6.5 output i am not that into all of this ..LOL can you tell yet?