Never a Ford again :(
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From: michigan
Sorry guys but I forgot to tell you. This expedtion was a returned lease truck w/37,000 miles on it when I bought it so I assume nothing mechanical was done before I bought it and it still has the origional everything on it except the cvc joint, tires and brakes and fanbelt so how can I complain
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From: Miami, FL
Well let me see...
Driver licence test car : 74 Maverick (v6, gold), great car!!
Dads car : 1rst year Fairmont (white, dad's thing)
First car : 72 Pinto (green, hatchback, $650)
Second car : 74 Pinto wagon (yellow with wood panels, $1,500)
Third car : 76 Pinto Green with wood panels ($1,600)
later another Fairmont, another maverick, 72 Torino ($50), Mustang ($600), 95 Thunderbird....
current : 98 Expy. 88K Miles. Blue.
Chevy's : I think I had an Olds once, for a while...
Driver licence test car : 74 Maverick (v6, gold), great car!!
Dads car : 1rst year Fairmont (white, dad's thing)
First car : 72 Pinto (green, hatchback, $650)
Second car : 74 Pinto wagon (yellow with wood panels, $1,500)
Third car : 76 Pinto Green with wood panels ($1,600)
later another Fairmont, another maverick, 72 Torino ($50), Mustang ($600), 95 Thunderbird....
current : 98 Expy. 88K Miles. Blue.
Chevy's : I think I had an Olds once, for a while...
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Originally Posted by HomerWinzlow
Wish I could help, but Im an Okie, and forever sealed there I think.. 
Brandon
Oh, 97 Expedition XLT 4x4, 5.4L, 199,562 miles as of right now. Parts replaced since it came into the family at 93k- alternator(1), #4 COP(today). That's it.
Last edited by OKLAHOMAF100; Jan 14, 2005 at 03:10 PM.
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I've owned many of them....ACURA is the best.
Took my 03EB to carmax today...They offered me 22,000 for it. That good considering the trade in value is around 18,500. UNFORTUNATELY, I owe 24,300..
I havent had any problems with my 03EB...but I still want to get rid of it.
Took my 03EB to carmax today...They offered me 22,000 for it. That good considering the trade in value is around 18,500. UNFORTUNATELY, I owe 24,300..
I havent had any problems with my 03EB...but I still want to get rid of it.
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From: VA
Originally Posted by HomerWinzlow
I dont know, because I dont work on all those brands. But what you havent been able to show is since you appearantly purchased this vehicle used, what the prior service history is nor have you mentioned mileage. No one knows what abuse your vehicle has had up to this point or what conditions it has been operated. I see way too many happy owners to believe that these vehicles are just lemons. You tend not to see so many repeat buyers if that happens or see a model stay top seller for so many years.
Certainly some vehicles have greater break down history than others, but overall I dont think you can say Expedition or Ford stands out as a pile of junk either. We all can empathise with your situation, but can you realistically expect the Ford technicians to diagnose the problems for free? They get paid for doing the job, not for being nice fellas.
Certainly some vehicles have greater break down history than others, but overall I dont think you can say Expedition or Ford stands out as a pile of junk either. We all can empathise with your situation, but can you realistically expect the Ford technicians to diagnose the problems for free? They get paid for doing the job, not for being nice fellas.
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From: St. Cloud, FL
Originally Posted by 2000Expy
How much brains does it take to hook up a computer to diagnose it?
I am sorry, but that just struck me WAY wrong. Many new customers call me and ask the same thing "How much for you to hook up a computer and let the computer tell you what is wrong?" It just does not work that way. As techs we are expected to be avle to immediatly look at a scan tool and determine the cause of the light. Not possible, that is why we attend seminars, classes, and advanced training. That is why we have access to Mitchel1 and Alldata. Why would we need all this extra knowledge and research data if the computer does the diagnosing and I am only a parts changer?
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From: BC, Canada
But Awesomebullet haven't you been told by your management that you could be replaced by trained monkeys? Surely it can't be only where I work that people have that opinion
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From: Las Vegas
Originally Posted by HomerWinzlow
Try to think of anything you own that goes through the torment a vehicle does without fail. You would be hard pressed to come up with a thing... IMHO
Every Japanese vehicle I have owned! Guess what? Yep no electrical gremlins with any of them. Heck I did not even know what their service shop looked like.
My '04 Superduty has been in the shop 6-7 times in the last year. Problem? Electrical/wiring problems.
My '04 Navigator is going in to service for the 4th time in 5,000 miles.
The service manager at my Lincoln dealership even agreed with me that american vehicles are substandard to Japanese. Guess what he drives? A Honda.
j/k
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My 97 4.6 EB has 160,000 miles, in that time I replaced...
An Oxygen Sensor, Plug Wires (#4 misfire from leaking heater hose), Belts and Hoses, Power Steering Pump, Vapor Management Valve, Lower Ball Joints, Tie Rods. At 100k, I changed transmission filter and oil out of guilt.
Most of these things are just normal wear and tear. I'm not the easiest on a vehicle.
I run a K&N Air Filter, and Mobil 1 Oil in the crankcase.
An Oxygen Sensor, Plug Wires (#4 misfire from leaking heater hose), Belts and Hoses, Power Steering Pump, Vapor Management Valve, Lower Ball Joints, Tie Rods. At 100k, I changed transmission filter and oil out of guilt.
Most of these things are just normal wear and tear. I'm not the easiest on a vehicle.
I run a K&N Air Filter, and Mobil 1 Oil in the crankcase.
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My 97 4.6 EB has 160,000 miles, in that time I replaced...
An Oxygen Sensor, Plug Wires (#4 misfire from leaking heater hose), Belts and Hoses, Power Steering Pump, Vapor Management Valve, Lower Ball Joints, Tie Rods. At 100k, I changed transmission filter and oil out of guilt.
Most of these things are just normal wear and tear. I'm not the easiest on a vehicle.
I run a K&N Air Filter, and Mobil 1 Oil in the crankcase.
ITS A SHAME THAT THE OLDER EXPY'S ARE MORE RELIABLE THAN THE NEWER ONES.
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My 97 4.6 EB has 160,000 miles, in that time I replaced...
An Oxygen Sensor, Plug Wires (#4 misfire from leaking heater hose), Belts and Hoses, Power Steering Pump, Vapor Management Valve, Lower Ball Joints, Tie Rods. At 100k, I changed transmission filter and oil out of guilt.
Most of these things are just normal wear and tear. I'm not the easiest on a vehicle.
I run a K&N Air Filter, and Mobil 1 Oil in the crankcase.
ITS A SHAME THAT THE OLDER EXPY'S ARE MORE RELIABLE THAN THE NEWER ONES.
Tuned
Joined: Mar 2004
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From: Georgetown, De
I solve the problem of that easily. I stick to the oldies but goodies. I have a '67 Ford and even though it has a lot of problems with it, its something that at least I know how to fix. To me, computers in vehicles are a pain, and just an excuse to jack up the price of parts to fix. My '95 F-150 had a part broke in the ignition. It cost me (at a Ford Dealership) $310 to fix it. $10 for the part, $71/hr to fix it. To me I rather have an old truck that I can fix for myself. Computers in vehicles, IMHO, are crap. Old school rides still rule!
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I never had any problems with my fords.........so far. The factory air isn't that great in my truck, until you get up to speed...............1953f100. Never a problem with my 92 E250 either. But we did have a major problem with my wifes Tahoe and the dealer who was to repair it. But a phone call to the warrenty people fixed that!
Not all dealerships are created equal, as some do know the value of repeat (happy) customers. As a side note I have had a couple of other ford vans and was very happy with the dependability. I did prefer the Inline 6 in all of them.
Not all dealerships are created equal, as some do know the value of repeat (happy) customers. As a side note I have had a couple of other ford vans and was very happy with the dependability. I did prefer the Inline 6 in all of them.
