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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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04/05 front suspension comparison

From what I have read,
250/350 in 04 have leaf springs in front, which many have wrote are a better set up than the 05 with the new spring set up in the front. So which better? Why switch? What is the effect when the snow plow package is added to the 05? (I will not use the snow plow,just want a HD truck) I will be replacing my 83 f250HD 460 4x4 soon and enjoy the fact that even with the camper on, going around corners the truck remains level (dosnt dip). I will replace with 250 or 350 4x4 V10 LB standard cab
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MrKen
From what I have read,
250/350 in 04 have leaf springs in front, which many have wrote are a better set up than the 05 with the new spring set up in the front.

So which better?

Why switch?

What is the effect when the snow plow package is added to the 05?
#1. In speaking of the Super Dutys, that actually remains to be seen. They did, afterall, just come out.

#2. Increased turning radius for one. Improved axle control. By seperating the function of suspending the axle and locating the axle (both duties are handled in leaf sprung trucks.) you are able to fine tune handling and control.

#3. Why would it be any different than a leaf spring? Both are springs. Both can be made progressive. I cannot imagine the coil set-up to be inferior to the leaf springs...there still is a solid axle under there.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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I like my 05 and think its a big improvement from my 01. Its a lot better ride and the turning radius is way better and I like the new dash to. Also the grill looks awesome, makes the 99-04 stock grills look like commercial trucks.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 06:15 AM
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I traded in my '95 F250 SC LB on an '05 F350 DRW CC LB and the ride is MUCH better in the '05. My '95 was like riding a buckboard where the '05 is very smooth.

Also the turning radias is much better in the '05. My '95 was only a supercab but I had more problems parking it than I do the '05.

That's my $.02 worth of what I've seen between the 2.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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If the turning radius is so much better, what about the 4x4 front axle bind we have in the '04 and previous years with the hubs locked?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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That will be there as long as they use U-jonts rather than cv's
 
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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That will be there as long as they use U-jonts rather than cv's
I understand that, but how much WORSE is it?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 05:03 PM
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MrKen, I just traded my 99' F350 DRW in on a 05' KR DRW F350. The ride and handling are a quatum leap over the 99'. Just to put things in perspective,I had a 80 F350 for 19 yrs before the 99'. The 99' was a vast improvement over the 80'. The new design allows for more precise control of caster. That tranlates into better directional control. You should test drive the 05 and the 04. But be warned you will be hooked. BTW all my trucks have been 4WD. Hello to all
 
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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I understand that, but how much WORSE is it?
I can't answer that because I have not locked my hubs and seen what it does. I have the SOTF and with the DRW the lug nut covers on the front wheels I haven't figured out a great way of manually locking the hubs yet.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Not that I don't believe yall, but how can the ride quality be improved? The springs still need to be stiff enough to support the load of the truck. I have never really though of coil sprung vehicles to ride softer vs. leaf sprung ones.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Another thing people do not mention is the front axle is way beefier then the old. Park an older SD next to the newer one. Youll see what I mean. The tie rod is huge and the axle tube is bigger. The frame is beefed up as well. It looks like Dodge and GM are in the dust again.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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I just traded in my 2000 350 standard cab for a 2003 350 super crew and the ride difference is un-believable. The 03 drives like a car compared to the 00.
It must be the longer wheelbase of the 03. I can't imagine the 05 with coils could ride smoother. But i've never driven an 05 so maybe I'll have to go test one when the dealer finally gets one on the lot.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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Coil Springs do ride better

I just took delivery of an 05 Lariat, CC, 6.0L PSD, FX4, Long Bed. I test drove 03 and 04 similar vehicles. The 05 gives a much better ride. Coil springs don't have the friction drag between the leaves as leaf springs do. My brother has an 04, CC, FX4, short bed and my turning radius with the 05 long bed is the same or tighter than his.
 
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