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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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1976 E150 turn signals don't work

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The turn signals on my 76 E150 stopped working. I looked through the forum entries and found many problems similar to mine, but have tried everything I can think of and still can't find the problem. The emergency flashers which are part of the same switch work fine. The bulbs are all ok, and I cleaned all of the contacts. The fuses and flasher are good. I replaced the ignition switch and the turn signal switch but it did not fix the problem... I have copies of the original shop manuals but cannot find a schematic for the wiring. The wires at the connector are below. The truck is a 351W with three speed on the column without tilt. Any thoughts or help would be appreciated! Thanks.

red with black stripe
light blue
green
yellow with black stripe
red and white
light green with white stripe
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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replace the flasher
 
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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Yeah you do relize there are 2 flashers right?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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Don't work as in how? Don't flash or don't even light up??
 
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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yup, in mine I have a flasher just for the emergency button, another is for the turn signals. Even if it was only one flasher, the load is different with all four corner lights burning than with just two during a turn.

So, that's why I think he should replace it. Holy cow, they only cost about 2 or 3 bucks!

So far he hasn't bothered to follow up with us, so we don't know if he's even monitering this info.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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yeah isn't that annoying when you tell somebody go try this or that and you never hear from them again. I would like to know if I was right and if not what fixed the problem sheeeesh!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Sorry, I didn't expect such a quick response. 1st time user...
The blinkers do not light at all and there is no sound from the flasher. If there are two flashers, where is the second? I looked around and even took apart some of the dash panel. The only one I see is right above the fuse box. One fuse in the fuse box is labeled "emergency flashers" but I check it and it is ok.
I also check for current at the connector and have twelve volts at two of the terminals. The red and white and the blue and yellow wires. They are both hot with and without the ignition turned on. Thanks! jmweber
 
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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There are 2 flashers, 1 is for hazard's and the other is for turn signal's. The turn signal flasher is located up behind the dash by the headlight switch. If you have absolutely none of your turn signal's lighting up at all have you checked the fuse? You can try to change the turn signal flasher but I do not believe that will be your problem. Do the hazard's work? flash fine? If so just swap out the hazard flasher for the turn signal flasher, if your hazard's still flash fine then you have eliminated the need to buy a new flasher or that being your problem.

Post back after trying that to gt more help.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jmweber
The emergency flashers which are part of the same switch work fine. The bulbs are all ok, and I cleaned all of the contacts. The fuses and flasher are good.
Yeah the first thing to do is just swap those 2 flashers around and see if that works.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions, but I already replaced the only flasher I could find with a new one. I also took off the dash panel which contains the ignition and head light switches and cannot see a second flasher from under the dash or through the panel hole..... I checked all of the fuses and bulbs before sending my first inquiry. When I turn on the turn signals in either direction, the emergency arrows on the dash do not light up or flash and none of the blinkers on the van light up or flash. When I pull on the emergency flasher, the arrows on the dash flash on and off and so do the lights on the van. HELP!
 
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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There are definetly 2 flasher's, it sound's more as if it could be in the turn signal switch. Do the brake light's work correctly?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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I already replaced the only flasher I could find with a new one.
Before your first post? We didn't know this.

When I pull on the emergency flasher, the arrows on the dash flash on and off and so do the lights on the van. HELP!
Headlights? or turn-signal lamps?

This proves you have found the emergency/hazards flasher.

Do the wire colors on the TS switch match those on the flasher's plug?

Could the hazard switch be a two-way switch so when it's in the off position it's routing electrical impulses to the turn signals? So, maybe it's bad?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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The head lights ( low and high beams ) work as do the brake lights and reverse lights. One thing I did notice is that the emergency flasher arrows on the dash stop flashing and stay lit when I apply the brakes... never noticed it before but then how often do you need to do it... I also already replaced the turn signal switch which includes the flasher switch. The new switch made no difference. Any other ideas where that second flasher might be? Also, several of the wires to the flasher switch also go to the turn signal switch, so there is some interconnections. It seems funny that the flashers work when then key is in the off position while the turn signals require the ignition to be in the On or Acc. position. The strange thing is that when I test the connector for the turn signal/flasher switch two wires are Hot when the ignition switch is in both the Off and On/Acc. positions. And, no additional wires become Hot when I turn the ignition on.... Could there be something wrong with the connector for the ignition switch? It seems like One of those connector terminals should become Hot when I turn the ignition on....Thanks for the suggestions!
 
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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One thing I did notice is that the emergency flasher arrows on the dash stop flashing and stay lit when I apply the brakes...
This is normal.

I also already replaced the turn signal switch which includes the flasher switch.
Unless a van is different than an F series the flasher is not part of the turn signal switch.

Any other ideas where that second flasher might be?
Have you looked all over behind the dash by the headlight switch, there has to be another flasher. I have never worked on a van so I am not sure as to where it is located.

It seems funny that the flashers work when then key is in the off position while the turn signals require the ignition to be in the On or Acc. position.
This is also normal.


The strange thing is that when I test the connector for the turn signal/flasher switch two wires are Hot when the ignition switch is in both the Off and On/Acc. positions. And, no additional wires become Hot when I turn the ignition on.... Could there be something wrong with the connector for the ignition switch?
When the key is in the run position you are testing the connector and have no wire that is making your test light flash? I have no book for the van so I cannot tell you what wire's are supposed to be hot when the key is in the run mode. Get yourself a manul so you can figure out what wire's need to be hot.

Sorry could'nt help more, it would be easier if it were in my driveway.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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Ranger 429 Thanks for your help! The van must be different from the F series in that the emergency flasher switch and turn signal switch are definitely part of the same unit. It cost me $85 and I had to drive 40 miles to get it..... I have an original shop manual ( all 5 volumes) but can't find a schematic for the turn signal switch. Darn thing doesn't have an index so you have to thumb through it. It's not in the section that talks about the turn signals, and it's not clear from the description if there is one or two flashers....Any other sugestions out there? Thanks again!
 
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