351 Windsor & Trans
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From: eldon mo
351 Windsor & Trans
I just got a 78 f150 with a 351 windser and a c6. Unfortantly, the guy I got it from gear lubed the trany to make her shift smooth. the trans in it is fubar. It makes a grinding noise when it shifts from first to second and doesn't want to pull itself. I found this out after a fluid and filter change.
Will a C4 trans from behind a 302 fit? If not, what will fit?
Thanks for your help.
Will a C4 trans from behind a 302 fit? If not, what will fit?
Thanks for your help.
Last edited by midnight_rider; Sep 4, 2004 at 10:33 PM. Reason: forgot some stuff.
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Are you sure it is a 351W and not a 351M? If it is a 351M then the 302 transmission would not work.
If it is a 351W I would stick with a C6 since it is a much better transmission. Depending on your application you might be able to get by with a C4 but you would need to beef it up. The tranny from behind a 302 would fit but it would not be set up to run behind a 351W and you would burn it up. You can get beefed up AOD's that would give you overdrive if you wanted it.
Engine Identification:
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351C/M/400 335 series: 8 bolts in rectangular valve covers. Timing chain housing is part of block. Thermostat housing on block. Exhaust bolt holes diagonal.
351M/400 335 series: intake is 10.7" wide the 351C is narrow.
351W/302/5.0L 6 bolts on trapezoidal valve covers. Thermostat housing on intake. Exhaust bolt holes horizontal.
429/460 385 series: 7 bolts in rectangular valve cover
352/360/390/427/428 FE series: Intake goes under valve covers.
There are other indicators but these may help.
If it is a 351W I would stick with a C6 since it is a much better transmission. Depending on your application you might be able to get by with a C4 but you would need to beef it up. The tranny from behind a 302 would fit but it would not be set up to run behind a 351W and you would burn it up. You can get beefed up AOD's that would give you overdrive if you wanted it.
Engine Identification:
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351C/M/400 335 series: 8 bolts in rectangular valve covers. Timing chain housing is part of block. Thermostat housing on block. Exhaust bolt holes diagonal.
351M/400 335 series: intake is 10.7" wide the 351C is narrow.
351W/302/5.0L 6 bolts on trapezoidal valve covers. Thermostat housing on intake. Exhaust bolt holes horizontal.
429/460 385 series: 7 bolts in rectangular valve cover
352/360/390/427/428 FE series: Intake goes under valve covers.
There are other indicators but these may help.
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From: eldon mo
Its a 351 Windsor. Says so on the valve covers and has all the stuff you listed.....
The reason why i asked about the c4 is that I may be able to get one for free from a friend. I realise its no where near the trans the C6 is but, I can use it till I get the C6 rebuilt.
Would a trans from an 86 with a HO 351 w work? I can get one of those for $150 with 86,000 on it. The guy had a fire that burnt up the under hood wiring and doesn't feel his truck is worth the rewire
The reason why i asked about the c4 is that I may be able to get one for free from a friend. I realise its no where near the trans the C6 is but, I can use it till I get the C6 rebuilt.
Would a trans from an 86 with a HO 351 w work? I can get one of those for $150 with 86,000 on it. The guy had a fire that burnt up the under hood wiring and doesn't feel his truck is worth the rewire
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From: eldon mo
well, after a couple hours fighting, I got the fragged C6 out of my truck by myself. I'm pretty sure I know what killed it. Whoever put it in the truck didn't hook up the trans cooler lines 
, instead, they capped of the holes and left it at that. 
I hate people that do work like that. The u-joint bolts were in finger tight as well as the bell houseing bolts. 
I am a firm beliver in doing things yourself, but if you do work like this, you don't deserve tools or a truck. I'm glad the previous owner only had it 7 months. He is the one that changed the tranny. He also changed the carb and left all the vacuum lines loose.
, instead, they capped of the holes and left it at that. I hate people that do work like that. The u-joint bolts were in finger tight as well as the bell houseing bolts. I am a firm beliver in doing things yourself, but if you do work like this, you don't deserve tools or a truck. I'm glad the previous owner only had it 7 months. He is the one that changed the tranny. He also changed the carb and left all the vacuum lines loose.
Last edited by midnight_rider; Sep 7, 2004 at 09:15 PM. Reason: misspelled
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