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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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MAP sensor

Hows it going everyone? I have narrowed a problem down to the map sensor. I would just like to know the purpose of this do-hickey as I am new to working on fuel injection cars. 90 aerostar 3.0 by the way.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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It's called a MAP "Mass Air Flow Ponetimeter" it measures the the Air's density, Flow, and Amount.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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it has to do with fuel right?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 12:33 AM
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Muffinman I hope it's ok if I argue with you
MAP stands for Manifold Absolute Pressure. MAF is Mass Air Flow.
A MAP sensor basically senses the manifold vacuum in the engine to tell the PCM how much load is on the engine. The air flow etc is inferred from the vacuum reading and TP reading etc.
A bad MAP wont always show up in tests and can cause rough idle, stalling, black smoke etc. They dont go bad too often though.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 03:14 AM
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Racerguy is 100% correct! MAP sensors are another one of those parts, that the aftermarket produces a lot of junk crap. You can replace the Motorcraft factory part, for one that is much cheaper in price. 6-7 months later the problem returns, usually when you least need it (the week of Christmas with rain or snow!!) I learned the hard way. For example, I replaced my Map sensor at around 95,000 miles when the emissions and driveability issues went wacko. Balked at the dealer price. Used a Carquest part, lasted 5 months same symptoms. Replaced with Auto zone part, another 6-7 months then crappy performance returns. I know instantly what the problem is when it happens, usually with little or no warning. That is about a 3,000 mile timeframe between the two aftermarket sensors. Bite the bullet, and purchase a Motorcraft MAP sensor. Almost 40,ooo miles on the Motorcraft MAP sensor, and the van runs fine in all types of driving conditions. True story... ED
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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Muffinman I hope it's ok if I argue with you
MAP stands for Manifold Absolute Pressure. MAF is Mass Air Flow.
I must need glasses now, I thought it said MAF. Time to go see the eye doctor
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Racerguy
Muffinman I hope it's ok if I argue with you
MAP stands for Manifold Absolute Pressure. MAF is Mass Air Flow.
A MAP sensor basically senses the manifold vacuum in the engine to tell the PCM how much load is on the engine. The air flow etc is inferred from the vacuum reading and TP reading etc.
A bad MAP wont always show up in tests and can cause rough idle, stalling, black smoke etc. They dont go bad too often though.
I have all of those symptoms so i think that it my be the map sensor. do those symptoms come from anything else?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Yes, a vacuum leak or bad fuel pressure regulator, possible bad O2 sensor can all cause it. If you know someone with a Ford with a MAP sensor that you could try that would be a quick and easy test.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 10:14 PM
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yeah, after unhooking it, it runs fine but gets like 1 mile to the gallon. also i can smell raw gas in the exhaust. its obviously running super rich.
 
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Likely the fuel pressure regulator then. The regulator is a round, shiny, chrome plated affair on the fuel rail atop the upper manifold. It has two fuel lines going to it plus a vacuum line. Pull off the vacuum line and see if it there is any fuel present in the line. If so, the regulator is bad and must be replaced. Usually, a bad regulator is accompanied by a noticeable dark exhaust plume. A bad O2 sensor will keep the engine in cold (rich) startup loop and cause poor mileage but not as bad as you describe. If you smell raw fuel, the regulator is likely the problem.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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i replaced the old map with a pull-n-save unit and it now works fine. thanks for all the advice
 
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