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Old Aug 28, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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Hello friends
Just a question, have a 02 250 CC diesel 4 X 4. been going to the 1/8th and 1/4 drag racing my bike. after seeing quite a few street trucks hitting the track, wondering if i would hurt something to drag the truck once or twice, put the 1705 superchip at high performance and hit-it.
stock everything but the programmer. Not run after run, just a time or 2 to see what it will do.
Hope i don't get flammed for this.
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Old Aug 28, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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Dude - get flamed?? Drag racing is getting pretty big in the diesel ranks!! I've run mine down the track a couple times and it was a blast!!!

Anything's possible - but I don't think I'd be doing it without gauges - especially with out anything else done to compliment the tuner (exhaust or intake) your EGT's will get out of hand in a hurry. At the very least - get yourself some gauges - whether you're gonna run it down the strip or not. It's real easy to get the EGT's high on the street - even with an aftermarket intake and bigger downpipe and exhaust!!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by train460
Hope i don't get flammed for this.
You ARE new aren't you? Diesel drag racing is something that has been going on for a LONG time. Check this out. http://www.dhraonline.com/

Choctaw Bob of the 6.0 PSD forum is running 13's in the 1/4 with only a K&N FIPK intake and a Diablo Predator tuner.
But you won't get something that good out of a 7.3 PSD with only a Superchips tuner. I don't know, you might run 15's, 16's?
Before you race, at least replace the muffler and cat(if you have one) with a piece of pipe. Will help your performance, EGT's, and sound.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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I had a 1705 on my 99 and it didn't get over 1100° on short runs like that. Mine's a 6 speed though so it would cool a little when I shifted. I'd think for a run or two you'd probably be ok but should definately get the gauges anyway since you'll want to keep doing it
 
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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Go for it with just a tuner you can't get it hot enough in the 1/4 mile to hurt anything. I drag race my F450 with 4:88's and it runs 15.65 while weighing in at 9500 lbs. This is at LACR in Palmdale Ca.

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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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[QUOTE=Frost13]You ARE new aren't you? Diesel drag racing is something that has been going on for a LONG time. Check this out. http://www.dhraonline.com/

Choctaw Bob of the 6.0 PSD forum is running 13's in the 1/4 with only a K&N FIPK intake and a Diablo Predator tuner.


13's with just a intake and tuner??!! Uhhhhhhh..... are you sure about that Frost? (not picking on you Frost.. just curious) That sounds a little too fast. I don't know what body style he has but I watched a 700 horsepower standard cab cummins run 11's.

I have an AIS intake and a SCMT. I had it on the 80hp setting when I ran the 1/4. 3/4's of the way down the track my EGT's exceeded 1250*'s. I've heard the turbo fins can start to warp at temps the run any hotter for any length of time. How true that is I don't know but I didn't want to push my luck. So I let off a little and ran a 16.5 in the quarter. Not fast, but not too shabby I guess. That's why I was wondering who that dude runs 13's with the 6 banger.

Like Cat said.... I wouldn't recommend running the quarter without atleast a temp gauge. You never know what can happen....
 
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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I have had my temps well over 1250 and the highest being 1600 for about 15 sec. and when we replaced the turbo with the H2e it showed no signs of any damage. It has been so hot that the intake side of the housing was blued. So I don't think these things are as sensitive as they say they are. I also have 163,000 miles of hard driving to stand behind.
But this is just my own personal thoughts and yours might differ.

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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 01:04 AM
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[QUOTE=LuLuGoin2ADiesel]
Originally Posted by Frost13
You ARE new aren't you? Diesel drag racing is something that has been going on for a LONG time. Check this out. http://www.dhraonline.com/

Choctaw Bob of the 6.0 PSD forum is running 13's in the 1/4 with only a K&N FIPK intake and a Diablo Predator tuner.


13's with just a intake and tuner??!! Uhhhhhhh..... are you sure about that Frost? (not picking on you Frost.. just curious) That sounds a little too fast. I don't know what body style he has but I watched a 700 horsepower standard cab cummins run 11's.

I have an AIS intake and a SCMT. I had it on the 80hp setting when I ran the 1/4. 3/4's of the way down the track my EGT's exceeded 1250*'s. I've heard the turbo fins can start to warp at temps the run any hotter for any length of time. How true that is I don't know but I didn't want to push my luck. So I let off a little and ran a 16.5 in the quarter. Not fast, but not too shabby I guess. That's why I was wondering who that dude runs 13's with the 6 banger.



The 6.0 is WAAAAY faster than the 7.3. If you look in truck trend magazine. a stock CC SB 4X4 6.0 auto will run 15.2 in the 1/4. Yes, 15.2 seconds STOCK in the 1/4. There is another person on there running a setup similar to Bob's except he has an Edge Juice Module w/In cab controller. and I know he is running mid to high 13's. And I am pretty sure Bob is. I'll ask him and get back to you later.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 01:10 AM
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Oh yeah. I forgot. Another little bit of info. With the Predator only on the 65 HP setting, Bob got up to 137 MPH. The only reason he quit there is because he ran out of road. And he was only at 3700 RPM. Since the 6.0 can rev up to 4200 RPM from the factory, someone done some math and figured out his truck has a max. speed of 157 MPH. Amazing, huh?
 
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WeWeld
I have had my temps well over 1250 and the highest being 1600 for about 15 sec. and when we replaced the turbo with the H2e it showed no signs of any damage. It has been so hot that the intake side of the housing was blued. So I don't think these things are as sensitive as they say they are. I also have 163,000 miles of hard driving to stand behind.
But this is just my own personal thoughts and yours might differ.

GENE

I'm with Gene on this too - but one difference! He's got gauges and he knows the hottest that he's ever gotten his truck! When I ran mine - it got up to about 1450-1500* or so without letting off at all and that doesn't bother me either for that short amount of time. It's just your lack of upgraded intake or exhaust that I noticed first. Any how - let us know how you do!
 
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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the stock 6.0 does not run low 15s out of the box I read an article comparing the big 3s diesel trucks and they all ran low 16s as for a tuner and airbox putting a 6.0 into the 13s I really doubt that my brother has an 04 6.0 with the edge tuner 4" exhaust airbox and he can't beat my truck which is a modified 01 7.3 I am in the low 13s and he loses by a few truck lengths.I saw the one member used the large letters to display WAAAAAY faster and that is true they are faster but we should not forget what the truck was designed for and I will take the stock 7.3 over the 6.0 anyday for towing just my opinion and not trying to come off as a wiseguy.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by freddyfast9
the stock 6.0 does not run low 15s out of the box I read an article comparing the big 3s diesel trucks and they all ran low 16s as for a tuner and airbox putting a 6.0 into the 13s I really doubt that my brother has an 04 6.0 with the edge tuner 4" exhaust airbox and he can't beat my truck which is a modified 01 7.3 I am in the low 13s and he loses by a few truck lengths.I saw the one member used the large letters to display WAAAAAY faster and that is true they are faster but we should not forget what the truck was designed for and I will take the stock 7.3 over the 6.0 anyday for towing just my opinion and not trying to come off as a wiseguy.
My bad! I noticed I misquoted the article just after the edit time limit was up.
Your brother is doing some thing wrong then. His truck should run 13's in the 1/4. There is a person on the forums with a 6.0 with edge juice and 4 inch exhaust that says in his sig that he calculated from an 1/8 th mile time that he would run 13's in the 1/4. I'll post a link as soon as I can find it.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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lol I really doubt that my brother is doing it wrong since he owns matt millens old mustang a 7.20 car and his 04 mustang running 10.50s,I plan on posting my 13.24 time slip as soon as my girlfriend shows me how to do it and I would love to see the 6.0s time slips as well with just an edge tuner and exhaust also these high torque powerstrokes come out of the hole real strong and pull hard for the first 1\8 mile then level off still accelerating so it would be hard to calculate their quarter mile time by that I know my 1\8 mile time was 6.34 does that mean I should be running a 12.68 in the quarter oh my I took a second off.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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i have a 7.3l with scmt and intake and exhaust and can run 10.40's in the 1/4!
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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ok,then my question back to you is how much is that ocean front property going for in Iowa.
 
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