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I am a Commercial Truck Manager at a Large Ford Dealership. The Econoline is hands down a better built van when you look at all the facts. It also extremely outsells the Chevy 2 to 1.
Excuse me- the Duramax is offered in the Express 3500 series, standard and extended length. It's a $5800 option. Not that it matters- this is a commercial market, and price is the overriding consideration. While the E-Series does outsell the Express, both manufacturers sell out their production capacity year-in, year-out.
The real question is what impact the Freightliner/Dodge Sprinter will have on this market. I've delivered 8 of those this year, and they're all over the place up here.
Last edited by polarbear; Jun 9, 2006 at 01:17 PM.
Yes I didnt say that it isn't and it also has more HP and Torque, And I do agree about the freightliner. Ford will probally wait until It takes over then try to dig themselves out of a hole. The ford deisel is a $5,410 option Also alot of the pool companies wont even have a chevy dropshipped and prefer not to do them
Polarbear beat me to it. Yep, the Duramax is an option in the new G-vans. The vans, however, will only get the 4L80-E 4 speed auto instead of the Allison.
Cody
Last edited by cleatus12r; Jun 9, 2006 at 02:17 PM.
Yes I didnt say that it isn't and it also has more HP and Torque, And I do agree about the freightliner. Ford will probally wait until It takes over then try to dig themselves out of a hole. The ford deisel is a $5,410 option Also alot of the pool companies wont even have a chevy dropshipped and prefer not to do them
But do you know why? GM doesn't spiff the pool companies the way Ford does or give them the generous allocations..... it's all about money. I sell them both (have for years) and they're comparable products. Business owners don't buy this equipment because of brand loyalty- it all comes down to cost per mile and availability at the time the purchase needs to be done.
I drive an 02 E250 every day. Someday's I'll drive the 03. I've driven the Express's and I'm not pleased with them. The cab area is bigger in the Express, but I just don't feel safe driving one. It doesn't feel as well put together as the E series. Especially when theres a load in the cargo area. Again, the Ford feels more stable. As long as you're not much over 6'2", the cab area in the Ford is comfortable. It also makes a difference if you have the gate seperating the cab from the cargo area. Those gates keep the seats from reclining/moving back to their full potential. But as far as our fleet of vans, the Ford's have had absolutely 0 trouble at all. The Chevy's have had fuel pump failures and head gasket problems.
The 03 chevy had about 50,000 (+/- 5,000) miles when we had the head gasket problem. In all fairness, all fingers should be pointing to the thermostat, because thats what went out. It actually stuck shut. The driver wasn't smart enough to pull over when it overheated. He just kept driving it. Thats when the head gasket blew. We were on a 100 mile trip to a job site. Boss sold that van shortly after and the new owner so far has had no trouble. But the fuel pump went at around 30,000.
We have Fords, Chevys, and Dodge trucks and vans in our fleet. Ford and Chevy are equal in many areas. Chevy does seem to have more interior cab, cargo, storage area than Ford and a higher ride hight. As to date we have not had any problems with the Chevys. The Fords we have replaced one engine, two transmissions, and four rear ends one which had a broken axel. Granted the Fords are older with much higher mileage. We buy the vans based on price and avalibility brand does not come into the decission making process.
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