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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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Coil springs?

Will the 4x4 '05 get coil springs or not. The one I looked at last weekend sure looks like my '03.
Why upgrade to an '05? The only things I noticed were turn signals on TT mirrors and a new running board.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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When you ask about coil springs, I assume you're talking about the rear suspension. I seriously doubt Ford would do that since the chassis is shared with the SD trucks. BTW, didn't you notice the '05's new grill, headlights, turn signals & front bumper? The lighted TT mirrors are not new, and can be found on older models.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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Why would he talking about the rears??

The new SD got front coils unfortunantly the Excursion will not receive the suspension upgrades as of yet.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 07:17 AM
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If the EX shares the 250 Superduty platform, why would Ford market the '05 Superduty front coil springs as a major improvement in ride and shorter turning radius and not let us have that on the EX. The '05 EX's bumper, lights, and running board are cosmetic, but look at the new coil spring set up and you will see a major change.
 

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by XinOK
If the EX shares the 250 Superduty platform, why would Ford market the '05 Superduty front coil springs as a major improvement in ride and shorter turning radius and not let us have that on the EX.
I have wondered the same thing and the only explanation that makes sense to me is that if Ford changed the frame/suspension on the X, it would have to go through all of the crash, etc. testing again. I don't believe that the testing on the F250/F350 can be used again. Testing has to be by model, not platform.

Also, the X gets different springs than the F-Series, so handling/durability, etc. all has to be checked out.

My bet is that for such a limited production run (20,000 units for maybe 1-2 years), Ford did not want to spend the big testing bucks, so it left the X alone with only cosmetic changes.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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I have wondered the same thing and the only explanation that makes sense to me is that if Ford changed the frame/suspension on the X, it would have to go through all of the crash, etc. testing again. I don't believe that the testing on the F250/F350 can be used again. Testing has to be by model, not platform.

Also, the X gets different springs than the F-Series, so handling/durability, etc. all has to be checked out.

My bet is that for such a limited production run (20,000 units for maybe 1-2 years), Ford did not want to spend the big testing bucks, so it left the X alone with only cosmetic changes.
This is absolutly right!!. Same goes for the new V10 3v powertrain that the SD's get. Ford did not want to go through the development costs (powertrain calibration) which would have to had been done if the EX were to get the new V10. By the way, the EX isn't the only vehicle in 2005 not recieveing the 3v V10. The E-vans arn't getting it either.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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SD and Excursion are not required by the Government to participate in mandatory crash testing due to their "Over 8600 GVWR" rating.

My guess is that the changes weren't made due to it's future demise. The front of frame is different on the Super Duty's. It is now boxed. I'm sure much of that was done because of the new suspension.

My guess is the lack of upgrades on the Ex was more due to not wanting to spend money on the redesign of the frame and components and less to do with any type of crash testing.

I would also speculate that the E-series aren't gettin' the 3V V10 so that the first run can go in the more popular and better selling Super Duty first. I would imagine a mid-year upgrade, though.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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I just drove a '05 Superduty crew 4x4 and there is a very noticeable difference when turning in intersections and pulling into a parking stall. Not sure if I noticed anything different in straight line driving.
If there is to be a change it makes sense for Ford to make it happen before December 31st and the tax cut-off.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Monsta
SD and Excursion are not required by the Government to participate in mandatory crash testing due to their "Over 8600 GVWR" rating.
There is US government mandated testing and normal product development testing prior to release.

I suspect that Ford crashes a few SDs and Xs even if the gov't doesn't order it.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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Will the 4x4 '05 get coil springs or not. The one I looked at last weekend sure looks like my '03.
Why upgrade to an '05? The only things I noticed were turn signals on TT mirrors and a new running board.
Here is my link to the same topic. Maybe next year....right....
http://www.fordexcursions.com/forums...?threadid=3926
 
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