So far, only on the 300C SRT-8, but who knows?

http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosins...b01-241629.htm

 

Just what everyone needs, now that gasoline is 2 bucks a gallon.

 

I'm interested to know how much torque the new Hemi will put out and how high it has to rev to acheive it. I would bet that it is another high winder like the 5.7. It should be a great car motor.

 

425 hp @ 6200 rpm.

420 lbs.-ft. @ 4800 rpm.

See all the spec here:

http://www.autoweek.com/docs/05_srt8_specs.doc

 

Where did you find that at, the only thing I found was HP.

 

Dosen't look like it will be in the trucks. Dosen't look like it belongs there either with the peak torque at 4800 RPM.

 

Did you open the link?

 

425 bhp (318 kW) @ 6200 rpm 420 lb.-ft @ 4800 rpm
Max. Engine Speed 6400 rpm
Boy that thing is a revver. I hate to see peak torque so high in the rpm band. The wifes toyota is like that and its nice to drive but it aint pulling a 12k lb boat either.

 

It is gonna be used in the Magnum, the 300C, and the Jeep Grand Cherokee for sure. I have been hearing alot about the magnums with the 5.7 and they are said to really move so the 6.1 should be alot of fun. For the trucks they should get thier V-10 back.

 

Yeah I did, thanks. It appears you edited your previous post after I posted my question. If it does make it's way into the Ram, I'd hope that they tune it to a lower RPM, it also states that the 6.1 requires premium fuel, I would bet a truck version would at least be able to use midgrade, but therefore be not quite as potent. It looks like the 6.1 is a bored 5.7. with a 4.06" bore compared to a 5.7's 3.92" bore, sharing a 3.58" stroke. I think it will be a strong motor, but not quite suited for a truck in it's current configuration.

 

If they do that it will make a lower peak torque and it's already well below the 2005 Ford V10's 455lb-ft and GM's 8.1L's torque. This looks to me like Dodge is just abandoning the HD gas engine market for their 3/4 and 1 ton pickups.

Guess if you're a Dodge fan who needs to tow alot you have 2 choices:
1. Buy a Ram with Cummins if you like diesels.
2. Buy a Ford or GM if you want or need a gas engined pickup.

I'm really interested in seeing how much torque this engine is rated for at or slightly under 2000rpm. If it's under 400lb-ft Dodge can hang it up, at least for their HD trucks.

 

With as high of a peak as it has, and from the 5.7 dyno's I've seen, it will be lucky to make 350 ft-lbs at 2000 RPM. It would have to be geared really low to pull a heavy load, or it woiuld never get it moving.
You would think that it could be tuned at a lower RPM and still get the same torque. Take the 5.7, in the Ram. It has less torque, 375 ft-lbs ,and more HP 345, at higher RPM's than the 300C's 5.7 (390ft-lbs, 340 HP) It seems they put the truck motor in the car and the car motor in the truck.

 

Well, in any case this 6.1L is a sorry engine if it's meant to compete with GM's 8.1L or Ford's 6.8L.

Maybe they will pull a fast one and surprise us with an entirely different gas motor for their HD pickups. They better because this thing is starting to sound like a joke for a towing engine. I'm sure will tow ok, but no way in the same league with the other two gas engines it has to compete with.

 

With peak hp at 6200 rpm. This thing will be very fast. Cobra SVT fast. The svt makes 390 at 6000 rpm. The 6.1 will have a slight advantage in gearing. The torque looks comparable. The svt making peak torque sooner but it makes less.

 

It seems that with the time lag it takes to bring new products to market, that Dodge planned these products on asumption that gas prices would stay moderate. They came out with the hemi Magnum, It's kinda of a modern day nomad, and it's a cool idea, in that context. However, I'm not sure how a 14mpg station wagon is going to do in the market with $2.00+ gas prices.

To get a high HP number, using two valves per cylinder-pushrod technology, you must shift the power band upward. You could shoot for strong low end tourqe using two valves per cylinder, but the HP number will be less. Most consumers don't understand lb-ft of tourqe at a given RPM, all they hear about is how much HP somethings got. Dealers want a high HP number they can use to wow customers with. The Dodge dealer can say: "look are hemi has 100 HP more than the other guys V8."