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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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what exactly is "drifting competition"

i have seen the guys at the races doing cookies and hanging the reaend out around every corner(drifting) but i am watching spike and they are talking about drifting competition. they were saying we need to get good enough to bet the japenese teams and need more cars in the market for drifting competition...WHAT COMPETITION, do they see who goes through the most sets of tires,who spends the most time going sideways through a corner, or is it the guy that can get around the track in the slowest time with his tires spinning. i seen the drifting,it looks cool and is entertaining but i dont understand the competition part of it.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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Maybe they give points for style,form,follow-through etc.We used to do this when I was a kid,but we did it on dirt roads,and called it "Luke Duke'in" (from Dukes of hazzard)I think its just another fad for the youngsters.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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I always liked to get the rear end of the '67 El Camino I drove in HS out a little bit on each and every corner.....I needed wet pavement, but in Washington it was in abundent supply. (Dad is puffing up in his urn.....)


Anyway, I think I kind of get the drifting thing....but it must be something as some dude is partially gutting BRAND NEW GTO's to compete in this type of competition. Like it or don't, you gotta admit chopping up a brand new car tends to make you think someone is pretty serious.

Or nuts.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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it actually takes skill guys, trust me i did it in Cali in my M3 and doing corners sideways at 60+mph is a lil harder than it is pushing a button on the controller of the X-Box or PS2....and the damage is oh so real if you botch it....its pretty fun...the object is to "drift" your car around the track while maintaining the course and not going outside of the cones...you have a time limit to complete which puts people into diffrent brackets....its a bit more than just skidding its the generation X's nascar i personally see no point of racing governed cars around a track for 400 miles....you see my point now?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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it actually takes skill guys, trust me i did it in Cali in my M3 and doing corners sideways at 60+mph is a lil harder than it is pushing a button on the controller of the X-Box or PS2....and the damage is oh so real if you botch it....its pretty fun...the object is to "drift" your car around the track while maintaining the course and not going outside of the cones...you have a time limit to complete which puts people into diffrent brackets....its a bit more than just skidding its the generation X's nascar i personally see no point of racing governed cars around a track for 400 miles....you see my point now?
i am sure it takes alot of skill to do but i wandering how it is scored. is it racing, do you try to bet the other guy to the finish line, do you have to slide at every corner or least a % of the corner, and if you dont are you penilazed points or time. or is it who slides the most. i think its cool to watch and i bet it would be a blast to do. these guys were talking about how serious the competition is and all. i was wondering what is the competition, how does one decide who wins?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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oh ok..well liks you said they have a points style system, if you hit a cone, go out of bounds, take longer than the allotes time etc you lose points....the high points holders from each round advance to the next and the next....till the finals and then the finalists move on to the next comp .....the point of the 'drift' is to start into the turn in a tailslide and end smoothly as if it were (which it is) a controlled slide...it looks like you are supposed to be doing it....the suspension is modded, the steering is modded, the gear ratios are modded...etc.... now i did it on a small circuit when it 1st started and was kinda underground and going on in parking lots after hours...they paid ca$h money at the end to the winner....usually paid by show promoters who set up the spot and ran the gambling on the event....1st place was a pot of like 1-5k depending....2nd was like $500, 3rd was 250, and as allways you get squat for 4th and on finishes....now depending on who you raced for you could get a bigger payout....now this aint like nascar there werent like 30 cars on the track....it was only as big as 4 cars at a time sometimes....i usually went in on the 3 car max races...i didnt want my beemer smashed up....and believe me you would see some NICE cars smashed up at the finish from sliding out and crashing into a pole base in the lot or another car.....it was pretty fun and its the new rage all over..if it goes mainstream in your town go check it out its fun to watch...and theres alot of fights oh yea its dominated by RWD cars you wont see much FWD rice except in the parking lot...in Cali there was this guy who OWNED in a mustang GT, and in LV there was a guy who was gettin down with a Vette' so its not rice owned....mine was German so it was "Bratwurst" ha ha ha
 
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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That sounds an awful lot like dirt track raceing.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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I can't appreciate it as a "competition". It's been fun to powerslide around corners since the beginning of autodom, but that doesn't mean it should be a competitive thing.

I can't imagine running around a circut with other cars, and rather than cutting through and passing them on a corner, getting my car loose instead. It goes in the face of logic... mine, at least.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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two words.... Sprint Car. That kind of racing ain't new. Applying style points to the slide is. And in sprint car racing, you don't have a clutch, the cars can pull the front wheels up at the exit of the turn, and the whole field competes at once!
 
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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stupid, that's what it is. take it back to japan
 
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 76supercab2
two words.... Sprint Car. That kind of racing ain't new. Applying style points to the slide is. And in sprint car racing, you don't have a clutch, the cars can pull the front wheels up at the exit of the turn, and the whole field competes at once!
yeah, but sprint cars race on dirt, where sliding helps them get through the corners with the most speed.

These drifters are out there on concrete, in powerful cars, and they're not trying to get to the finish line first. It just blows my mind.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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Well, watch a mud bogg race, a monster truck show and a demo derby, especially the Florida school bus and mattress on top of the car job and drifting will start to make sense. Or if you're old enough, wheelstanders at the drags....
 
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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stupid, that's what it is. take it back to japan
NICE attitude bro! this site (because you are new and may not know) is dedicated to bringing intelligent conversation to the table. Opinions are welcome but limited because of the flame wars they may start. You think drifting is stupid right? why is that? i'll bet it is because you have no idea what it is. Like Nascar, i think that it is a nice sport and it does take skill to drive a car at those speeds. However i think the sport is over rated, they are just driving around in a circle trying to get ahead of the guy in front of them....oh wait.....thats what all racing is right? Same with Drifting.....your objective is to not go off course..same in Nascar...to maintain control of your vehicle...same in Nascar....to make the most points...same in Nascar....so now that we have evened the playing feild do you see how it could be fun....now why not look into a sport before bashing it...after all not everyone likes to sit home on Sundays sucking down brews and watching cars go round and round and i say that with the utmost love and respect to my couch potato brethren.
 

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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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Okay. I don't know all the answers about it, but here's my take.

In drifting, isn't the object to get ALL 4 wheels to break traction, but "somehow" have enough control beforehand to "aim" your car to where you want to exit the drift?

I say unless you get 4 tires to break loose, all you're doing is fishtailing.

edit: Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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all 4 dont break traction that would be total kaos...the rear end slides out and ...oh ell just click this itll explain it http://streetracing.tiora.net/japan/drift/drift1.htm

hope this helps...and try it if you wanna its pretty fun...just dont do it in public streets..thats bad!!
 
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