it picked up fast probably just the import guys moving from their civics and stuff into rearwheel drive. theres a whole anime series on it; initial d; that showed it starting on the mountain roads in japan, you wouldnt want to screw up there.

and james your m3 is a bimmer. what did you do to get a car like that to drift so well?

 

I have a great repect for the Japanese drifters, they take these tiny beasts of a rocket and drift down moutain sides doing 60+ miles an hour. I even saw one video of a guy driving with two feet, one on the clutch, and the other his right (sideways) on the gas and brake. This allowed him to never let go of the gas, he was constantly reving his ride.

I do not however understand these punk Fast and Furious wanna-be kids. I saw some idiot try to drift on a public street in a front wheel drive integra. He slammed into the curb, cracked a rim, punctured a tire, and luckily didn't hurt anyone in the process. It's ridiculous, I don't understand why these guys even try to drift, they should leave that to the real drifters.

my 2 cents.

--Juan

 

Heavy right foot, pop the clutch in 1st gear and leave it there...

 

but they arent really setup to do it as good as the 240s and mazdas. i was wondering what kinda mods he had.

and a lot of racers drive heeltoe you need a good pedal setup to be able to do it comfortably though.

 

almost like momudder said but trying to stay within the power band without hitting the rev limiter usually 3500-5500rpm and sidestepping the clutch worked pretty well to get the **** end out in front of you...the good thing was than when it did step out a bit too far it was easily brought back into control.....had to run a set of those spring helpers in the rear struts to allow the wheels to top out and spin rather than duck into the fender wells and grip...the car had extrordinary handling abilitys but nothing a set of stiff comp radials in the rear wouldnt let slide

 

Offroad magazine actually had some type of editorial on this very subject a in the last couple of months. The editorial stated that drifting actually erupted from the offroad community. The writter said big trucks + huge power + slipping traction = drifting of course it was in mud pits, and snow drifts ... interesting take on the subject.

 

my car is hard to slide too they grip too well. e34s rule! http://www.bmwzone.dk/da/vid/bmw_drifting.mpeg

 

Who cares????? Take this conversation the the Jap board.

 

Dude that ain't even right bro. That's taking it too far.

 

My apologies. My previous comments were way out of line. I guess to each their own. I'm sure it is not as easy as it would appear. Just not my thing.

Maverick

 

Nascar: anyone can do that at 200 mph..it is easy

410 Super Sprints: Now going 140 mph on dirt in a direct drive car that is only 1450 lbs. with 840 HP is childs play

Drifting: NO Way! It takes the skill and talent that only the best Japanese drivers have...

The tire manufacturers are laughing all the way to the bank.

I agree to each his own, but it goes against my principles of setting up a car for competition. The last thing I would want is a loose car that won't handle a corner.

Just my 2 nickles worth

 

Why is it that when people lack an understanding of something their nature is to discredit it? As i have said before NHRA, Nascar, Monster trucks are all "sports" that have a debatable concept. Just because i dont watch them i dont knock it...im sure its hard to do.....now with that said Maverick you too are new here but i have to say why would you want to start off your stay here at FTE with a comment like that? Im glad you apologized and that shows that you are a good man, but for any more bashers please think a second about what you are saying before you trash talk another mans sport....it'd be like me saying Earnheardt (SP?) sucked....or whoever your favorite racer is....thanks for your consideration


Blitzen....bro if that was you i have something to say....1st off WOW pretty nice control man, nice drift.
2nd you are one lucky SOB that you didnt get yourself killed....doing that on public roads is what is going to keep the sport underground and illegal....it will also never allow people to respect the sport if they think its done by a bunch of kids who endanger the public.

take it from a freestyle stunt rider on streetbikes we get little to no respect for our skills because of the morons doing wheelies and endos etc on the public roads....they see us at a sanctioned event and think "look honey theres some of those punks who were doing that on the interstate friday" its just not a good way to gain exposure for your sport.

if it wasnt you then good i was hoping you had more sense than that

 

it wasn't me. i wouldn't do that and i couldnt do that either. pretty crazy when i first got my license but ive totally mellowed out and grew up; and i only just turned 21

 

Drifting is a waste of time, resources, and provides no useful data toward the automotive industry. Sure, it's cool to drift throught he apex of a hairpin turn to keep up the speed for the backstretch, but it contradicts everything racing has been about for the last 60 years. If they want to slide and call it style, why waste money and technology on twin turbos and $200 tires to keep riding the rev limiter. Style? only another drifter could appreciate this 'sport' They can take it back to the japanese for all I care!

 

I guess I'm kind of the odd man out, except maybe for James. I happen to think it is rather "cool" - for lack of a better word.
It IS different, I'll grant that.
I have lost all interest it NASCAR, and can't keep up with the CART / Indy mess.
I find myself now watching motorcycle roadracing, WRC racing, and would watch drifting if I knew when it came on TV (if in fact it does).


With all due respect to the nay-sayers (this is said in a constructive, conversational manner):
The talk about wasting tires is a wasted argument against drifting IMO. Does anyone think NASCAR, or Indy cars, or heck Top Fuel dragsters! get 50,000 miles out of a set of tires !?!?! They go thru tires like kids thru popcorn at a movie theater.
I believe CART and Indy cars make considerable use of the rev limiter. I know motorcycle racers do.
It doesn't go against the principles of setting up a car for competition if the competition is drifting. WRC drivers - who I believe are some of THE best drivers in the world - "drift" all the time. They have a hand brake in the cockpit just so they can drift around turns. That is how they go fast.
To say it contradicts everything racing has been about for 60 years paints with a broad brush.
NASCAR started on dirt and the first Daytone races were run on sand.
NASCAR runs an oval (with an occasional road course), F1, CART, etc run road courses and ovals. Dragsters and Funny cars hope they run NOTHING BUT a straight line - any turns would be BAD news for them!
Then we have swap buggies, Paris - Dakar, WRC (which races on everything short of 4 feet of water) and the list goes on.
I don't believe any form of racing started to provide useful data to the automotive industry. Many do today. But I doubt such was in the minds of any of those who first started any form of racing. They had things with wheels and an engine - the natural thing to do was to race 'em.
I think I get the jist of what you are saying but I look at it from a different perspective: These guys have just found another way to take big horsepower and put it to asphalt and develop a new form of "racing". I can't fault them for that!
I saw part of the show on Spike TV about drifting. Unless I am mistaken, there were a few Dodge Vipers running and I believe I remember hearing Drifting was the fastest growing form of motorsport racing. (Not sure how they measured it. If it is based on % that says little about real numbers. It could grow 300% per year and still pale in comparison to NASCAR).

Drifting competition / racing is a new and different type of motorsport and is notlikely to dethrone NASCAR as the preimminent form of racing in the US. But, say what you will, those guys are on the track behind the wheel and I'm behind a desk pushing buttons on a keyboard. Given the chance, I'd drift in a heartbeat!