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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Haven't gotten my truck yet, but figured I'd start asking some questions. I always have heard you can let a diesel idle forever, but the other day I read in a thread that it was bad for the 6.0. Why is that. Also, why is it so bad to take short trips with them as well?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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They MUST be at operating temp....before you hammer down

If you drive a block or less it could be hard on them...IMO
 
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Short trips are bad because the engine never gets hot enough to "clean" the condensation out of the oil. BTW I read today that idling for an hour uses the same amount of fuel as driving 33 miles. So it's like 2 gallons per hour at idle. (there was a thread on this a while ago, and we were all guessing.)
 
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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Idling is O.K as long as you test your oil regularly. Blackstone indicates that if you idle this engine extensively you may have a higher fuel content than normal.

I idle mine for hours on end as I use it as a mobile office on construction sites. I have my oil tested at each change to see if I have any fuel problems developing. Check my Gallery for a Blackstone oil test report.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hjudge49
Short trips are bad because the engine never gets hot enough to "clean" the condensation out of the oil. BTW I read today that idling for an hour uses the same amount of fuel as driving 33 miles. So it's like 2 gallons per hour at idle. (there was a thread on this a while ago, and we were all guessing.)
No wonder I can never get more than 17.5 MPG like the rest of you guys
 
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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My 550 is now just cresting 4000 hours and I've owned it just shy of a year now. It reads 23,255 on the odometer. Doing some simple math that's either mean I was driving at about 6 mph the whole time or I was idling about 10 hours a day. CAT performs the analysis on my oil which is changed every 250 HRS. Roughly monthly. Fuel parts per million have yet to be unacceptable.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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My 550 is now just cresting 4000 hours and I've owned it just shy of a year now. It reads 23,255 on the odometer. Doing some simple math that's either mean I was driving at about 6 mph the whole time or I was idling about 10 hours a day. CAT performs the analysis on my oil which is changed every 250 HRS. Roughly monthly. Fuel parts per million have yet to be unacceptable.
Same for mine....I think the sample was less that 2% fuel content which is well below the norm.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 04F250CC60
My 550 is now just cresting 4000 hours and I've owned it just shy of a year now. It reads 23,255 on the odometer. Doing some simple math that's either mean I was driving at about 6 mph the whole time or I was idling about 10 hours a day. CAT performs the analysis on my oil which is changed every 250 HRS. Roughly monthly. Fuel parts per million have yet to be unacceptable.
I would hate to ride with you very far...man you are s l o w
 
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"Wet Stacking" is the build up of resin on the exhaust valves from poor quality fuel and/or low operating temperatures due to extended idling. I was concerned about this with my Mercedes diesel, and the Mercedes technical people said it wasn't a problem with their diesel. I have noticed in Europe, the taxi drivers never shut their engines off (all manufacturers of diesels). The only exlaination I can think of, the compression ratios of non-turbo diesels are higher, so the combustion temperatures at idle will be higher, when compared to a turbo diesel, which has a lower compression ratio.

Here is an article on "Wet Stacking" if interested:

http://www.intellidog.com/dieselmann/b_smoke9.htm
 
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