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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 04:46 AM
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Tires for towing

I've currently got P235/70/16's on my '97 F-150 SC. I need new tires and currently tow a 6000 pound travel trailer behind the truck. Ford lists tire sizes as 235/70/16 or 255/70/16's for the SC. I think it would be better to get the larger tires (255's). I can only get the 235's in p-metrics (AKA car tires). I can get LT255/70/16's in a load range D. Also, the tire guys says I need to use load range E tires which are 245/75/16's (he's got these in stock, everthing else has to be ordered). Here's the questions:

1. Should I stay with the size tires Ford says?
2. Do I need load range E, D, or just plain LT or p-metric tires?
3. Which tire is best?

Thanks,

Phil
 
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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1) go for what ever size you want has longer has it fits the rim and doesn't rub. that being said the taller the tire the the higher the final gearing will be i.e. if you have a 235/70/* and go to a 255/70/* you go from a gear of something like 3.73 to something like 3.55 (numbers aren't actual) that being said, with a 4X2 you can go to a 265/70/16 no problem. that's what I have with 4.10 gearing and it'd tow your 6000lbs easily, I also have a 4.6L
2)for towning I'd suggest going with an LT tire it has a stiffer side wall going higher will give you a rough ride but won't be too bad
3) the tire you want to most but diffenatly a radial since your be towing everything else is your preference.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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I just bought a new 2004 ;4x4; ford f150 with factory equipted towing package and it
has P type (passenger) and when I questioned that it should have LT"S they insured
me that p tires are ok for towing and will handle the weight.
PS this was Ford of Canada I don't know if the US regulations are different.
I'm towing a 27' 11" 5th wheel trailer ( ultralite ) weighs around 6500LBS
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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I would go with the LT with the E rating in a size as close to stock height as possible.

As for the tire sizes you listed:
a 235/70-16 is 29" x 9.25",
a 255/70-16 is 30" x 10",
a 245/75-16 is 30.5" x 9.6"
a 225/75-16 is 29.3" x 8.9".

Whatever the load range letter of the tires, check the tire sidewall to see that the 2 rear tires' load carrying capacities (in lbs) added together is greater than the actual loaded rear axle weight of the truck. A 5th wheel trailer will put alot of pin weight on the truck and *can* overload the stock tires and/or axle weight rating.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Have deceided to stay with the P-metrics. The load range E tires need 90 PSI inflation, too much for my stock alloy wheels. The LT load range D tires run at 65 PSI, right on the edge of the wheels limit. Given the P-metrics have the load capacity, we're sticking with them for a while longer since they are still good and have a lot of tread life left.

Thanks for your inputs.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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Just a side note as I was shopping for before I decided to upgrade the truck is the local tire dealers tell me LT tires have no warranty but P tires do!
Just be sure you have adequate load ratings. I have C rated tires at 1998 lbs which isn't enough if I load my truck to the GVWR. Lots to take into consideration.
Good luck
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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that 1998 lbs is probbably per tire making the total load rating double that
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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Yes that is correct, that is the load rating on the side wall of the tire those specific tires.
Some P tires with a C rating I was looking (Michelin LT XT P/235/75 R15 Load C) at are only rated at 920 lbs per tire for a total load distribution of less than 4000 lbs yet in my case the truck alone weighs 4300 lbs and has a GVWR of 6050. The LT tires weren't rated for the truck never mind any load. The tire dealer was surprised, so they came off the truck and the same tire but rated at 1998 were put on but not a P tire they are true LT XT LT/235/75 R 15 Load C tire with no warranty because they are on P tires. Strange! More money of course.
 
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For what it is worth

P = Passenger

LT = Light Truck

Metric is the system used for measure replacing the 6.75, 7.00, 7.25, 7.50 sizes of old.

I would go with the LT D range tire. IMHO

John
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jowilker
For what it is worth

P = Passenger

LT = Light Truck

Metric is the system used for measure replacing the 6.75, 7.00, 7.25, 7.50 sizes of old.

I would go with the LT D range tire. IMHO

John
Thanks for your input John. That looks like the safest bet.
 
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