I would like some information on the Y block heads that were used down there. Were the ports vertical, instead of stacked as they were up here in the states? How easy is it to come by a set of heads with the side by side ports?
Thanks,

 

that would be nice.i hear they made y blocks till 78 there.they made them till 72 in argentina.they used side by side ports from 62 on.saw a picture of one.

 

I found that out about Brazil cars having Yblocks really late...Back in about 1987 or so, a lady brought a 1967 ford galaxy to our shop that had a miss and shook real bad, when we opened the hood, i expected to see a 289 or a 352, and i dropped my jaw when i saw a darned Yblock 292 in the thing, and i hollered out at Earl my husband, hey hon you aren't going to believe this!! Who put this in here??? What the heck?? I called Ford, Joe Camp motor company and found out the car was from Brazil and they used a Yblock in 1967 Galaxies, so that was my first encounter with that, LOL!!! Janet

EDIT: Oh Dongc1, i don't know anything about those late Yblocks from Brazil, i only changed spark plugs and wires in one back in 1987, other than that i have no clue of information on those, except it's obvious to look at one and assume it's a 272, 292, or 312.....Janet

 

Okay, so i like to babble on too much, but so what, it is Yblock forum and any info about any Yblock should be used, why not?? Okay, that time i encountered that 67 Galxy with the 292 that missed and shook, i wanted to study it, and see what kind of automatic transmission it had amongst other things, but the lady was a big big hurry, and i had her sign a repair invoice that i could not guarantee anything because too many things were wrong that she would not let me fix, the thing was caked with grease, the distributor nut was loose and i had to hand time it the best i could because it wouldn't run right timed on specs, then i changed the plugs which cured the miss, which hadnt been changed in 100 years, but werent oily, it was so low on oil it didnt show on the dipstick, had to add 2 and a half quarts, because she wouldnt let me change it.. The upper radiator hose was about to explode which she refused to let me fix, so i left her with it with those few thing i did and had it running smoothly, and the stubborn woman left and paid just for the labor and plugs and oil, i wished i could have studied it, but some people, what can you say??.One thing i will say about us, we are decent good folks, we will drive a person home while we fix their car, and will always let people know if they are in danger of breaking down because i care about people, like one man for example that had tie rod ends about ready to fall of and i told him he could get hurt badly, he actually cursed me and said hogwash, don't try your crooked antics on me, that's part of the business though...Janet

 

We have a member who goes by the name "Lobo 2". He is from Brazil, and is very knowledgable on Brazillian Y-blocks.

I sent him an e-mail, hope he stops in.

 

I'm sorry for not answering before... My email is not working right, and time has been a real problem lately.

Ok.....
Let me see.. hehehe
The last Y-block left the factory down here in 1975.
As far as I know, the heads are the same. The ports are not vertical. A friend of mine used an intake manifold from a US made Y-block in one of our Brazilian Y-blocks and it worked just fine.
I can't remember the size of the valves. I'll have to measure here, and I'll tell you.
Janet, if the 67 Galaxie you saw was actually from Brazil, it would have a 272, not a 292... Unless it was a 1969 or newer. Then it would have a 292. Automatic transmissions for these engines only arrived in 1969... And it was a cruise-o-matic. Something pretty close to a C4.
If there's anything else I can answer, feel free to ask.

Best regards,
Lobo

 

This stuff is new to me, about these Brazilian Yblocks, yes that 67 must have been a 272 then, it was a rush job at our shop and i never got a chance to look at it good, it was so caked with grease and the lady was in a big big hurry i couln't study the thing, i could just for sure tell it had to be some 272, 292, or 312, this i could tell, so 272 it was then, i only had to assume it was a 292 at the time Lobo, as i had no way of knowing. I knew it wasn't from America unless someone put a Yblock in it, but it was Ford Joe Camp in Laporte by Houston, that ran the Vin and stuff and said it has to be a Brazilian issue, she was already gone when i called them. Down here in 1967 Galaxys they came with 289, 352, or for the XL Galaxy a 390. Janet

Oh Lobo, i'm glad i remembered!! Can you tell me what type bellhousing they used on the late Brazil Yblock automatic?? As this is a issue with people down here that want to know how to get a C4 or FMX to mount to a Yblock, i've been told the 1960's automatic that the 390 V8 in the 68 Mercury is supposed to mount right up to a Yblock, can you help us on this??? Janet

 

That's very interesting!!
I never thought a Brazilian Galaxie would have made all the way to Houston... By the way, I lived for some time in Galveston... And I spent quite some time in Houston.

One thing I like about Brazilian Y-Blocks, is that it's very easy to tell which one is a 272 and which one is a 292. On the timing chain cover, between the water pump and the block, on the right corner there's a flat space in there. On that space it will be marked 272 or 292. The 312s were never made here.
I've got a few pictures of Brazilian Y-Blocks that I could try to scan and post here, or something like that... Let me know if you think that would be interesting...

Janet, I never saw a 390 bellhousing. The bellhousing for the C4 that we had was specially designed to work with the Y-Block and the C4. It only fits those C4 with the dipstick mounted on the oil pan. On those models, the bellhousing does no hold the front pump in place. It uses a different set of screws. And it used a small torque converter... At least it's smaller than 302's I've seen.
I don't have a bellhousing and flexplate handy, but I'll try to locate one and take some pictures for you. This might take a while, since finding those things are not easy anymore... But, one thing I can tell you for sure. I love to drive a Y-block with an automatic transmission.

Best regards,
Lobo

 

I would like to attach a C-4 to my 292. As you probably know the adaptors run close to $500! Are the bellhousings and flexplates you mention a match for the C-4s around here, are they aluminum, and are they available? Mike

 

Mike,

As far as I know, they are aluminun, and they are a perfect match to all C-4s with the oil pan dipstick. Our C-4s were imported from the US, then I think it should work just fine.
But these things are very rare down here. For some reason, people in Brazil does not like automatic cars. Then, very few y-blocks left the factory with an automatic. Or they were converted to manual after the automatic transmission went bad. I believe I should have a flexplate and a torque converter from a 292... And the C-4 that went with it, but I don't have the bellhousing. Somebody dropped? the bellhousing, and I only received several pieces of it when I bought the transmission. I'll try to find the flexplate in my garage (won't be easy )today. A friend of mine had one of those bellhousings. I'll ask him if I may take some pictures of it... I know he won't sell it to anyone. I've tried to buy it already.
Lobo

 

Hi Lobo, it's Janet...Yes, any pictures would interest me, that is also strange of a brazilian car making its way here to Houston, that's why it blew my mind when i saw it that time in 1987. I never realized such a thing existed. I'll never forget that time i opened that hood and saw that greasy Yblock in a 67 that i only ever saw in my life of always having the 289 to 390. The lady was spanish, because she was very light skinned but had the accent and was in the most nervous hurry i ever saw a person be. Reckon she was running from the law?? hehehe!!! Since then, i never saw another one like that except in our 54 to 60 cars, and went in our pickups up to 64 (the Yblock), but in a 67?? wow, it sure surprised me. I'll always wonder, why was that woman in a such a nervous hurry?? I decided to never again allow a person have us do a rush job like that again, for one thing i have to forever save an invoice with their signature showing i cannot guarantee it, and i doubt she got far with that upper radiator hose, oh well.As far as an automatic and a Yblock, i did have a 57 ford station wagon with a 292 and automatic, and the car was heavy and really solid, it had good power too..Hey Lobo what years were you around the Houston area?? Because in the 60's and early 70's this place was the funnest place in the world!! You could sleep out at Galveston beach by the waves, you had drive in movie theatres, oh wow we had so much fun!!! Now there is nothing to do, it's just police police police and everything is against the law...Janet

 

Janet,
I have two pcitures right now on my gallery of my y-block... It's a 1968 272... And it was on a 1973 F100 that was sold a while ago. I kept the engine. Sold the truck with another 272. I'll try to take some pictures of a brand new y-block that a friend of mine has. It's never been run. And it was a "special order". It runs on alcohol. And I have another one that was taken apart to be cleaned. I'll try to take pictures of that one too.
And no... When I arrived in Galveston, the 60's were long gone... I got there late 90's and we came back to Brazil in 2000.
I also found some specifications sheet of the Brazilian y-block here. I'll try to get those scanned this weekend.
Lobo

PS By the way, if you like Galaxies, check this website my friends and I made...
http://www.amigosdogalaxie.com.br/
We don't sell anything there... Just pictures. It's in portuguese, but it's easy to find you way around.

 

I'm very interested to go look at what pictures you said you have right now, and thank you for sharing this stuff with us all!!!...Janet

Lobo that 73 ford pickup 272, looks like it has aluminum heads, am i right?? And the 62 ford pickup, is that the 62 body as well for Brazils pickup that year, it looks just like our 1956 model ford truck.This is some very interesting stuff here to me and probably all of us, here i am at nearly 49 years old and i've come across a whole new series of information.So it's obvious the bellhousing is detachable on that C$ automatic, so us people here, if only we could aquire a torque convertor and that bellhousing we would be in business!!!.Janet

 

Thank you Lobo! Very good to hear from you again.

 

If those were aluminum heads, I'd be in heaven! hehe Those are regular cast iron heads...
Yes, that trucks is a 1962 F100. A 1962 Brazilian F100. And, it is a 1956 US model F100. As far as I know, when they quit making that model in the US, the models were sent to Brazil and they began to produce those trucks down here. That's why sometimes you see some Made in Brazil parts on those F100s. The spare parts were made here and sent back to the US... The 1956 model began to be produced here around 1959....
Lobo