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So you acelerate in first, push clutch, out of 1st, out clutch, rev into 2nd, while engine speed is higher then trans you let the clutch out? Is this to get a "jump" into the next gear?
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95' F-150 EB 300/6 5 spd with 4" Superlift, MSD, Ram Air, Gibson Exhaust, 32" BFG Muds
NEW PICS IN MY GALLERY!! :-)
Then theres:
88' F-250 Superduty 351 + c6
92' Thunderbird 3.8L V-6 FOR SALE!
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 and a
3 spd column shifter baby.
The newest addition to the Ford family is a 99' Mustang GT 4.6L
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 11-Apr-02 AT 10:50 PM (EST)]MustangGT221-
I really enjoyed Gone in 60 seconds too...
Here's a little trivia-- In the remake, they used either 4 or 5 GT500's( I can't remember), however in the original there was only one Mach 1 mustang used through out the entire movie. Keep in mind that the original "Gone in.." had a 40 minute chase and a 30 foot high 128 ft jump that Eleanor was driven away from(although the stunt driver suffered a compressed spine upon impact
)
I thought that was pretty impressive...
Jon
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I really enjoyed Gone in 60 seconds too...
Here's a little trivia-- In the remake, they used either 4 or 5 GT500's( I can't remember), however in the original there was only one Mach 1 mustang used through out the entire movie. Keep in mind that the original "Gone in.." had a 40 minute chase and a 30 foot high 128 ft jump that Eleanor was driven away from(although the stunt driver suffered a compressed spine upon impact
) I thought that was pretty impressive...
Jon
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Very true, i do have the 70s version. However the 74 mach 1 was slightly modified to take the crash into the pole (which was actually an accident) and to take the jump. The jump in the new gone in 60 seconds is kind of bad since most of it is all fake and a little unbelievable. However, (in the new one) when he lands, and lands pretty hard, that is true. They took a stunt driver and had him run off a small jump and filmed the landing. Funny thing is that the 74 mach 1 still runs as of this day...GO FORD! They had him doing donuts with it in the special addition dvd. That, is def amazing.
Primary rig is:
95' F-150 EB 300/6 5 spd with 4" Superlift, MSD, Ram Air, Gibson Exhaust, 32" BFG Muds
NEW PICS IN MY GALLERY!! :-)
Then theres:
88' F-250 Superduty 351 + c6
92' Thunderbird 3.8L V-6 FOR SALE!
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 and a
3 spd column shifter baby.
The newest addition to the Ford family is a 99' Mustang GT 4.6L
Primary rig is:
95' F-150 EB 300/6 5 spd with 4" Superlift, MSD, Ram Air, Gibson Exhaust, 32" BFG Muds
NEW PICS IN MY GALLERY!! :-)
Then theres:
88' F-250 Superduty 351 + c6
92' Thunderbird 3.8L V-6 FOR SALE!
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 and a
3 spd column shifter baby.
The newest addition to the Ford family is a 99' Mustang GT 4.6L
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Orangepeel...yes they had an orginal Gone in 60 sec done in the mid 70s with a 74 mustang mach 1 instead of the gt 500. The one that recently came out is a new version, has a few things from the old but a lot different. Some of the names are re-used. Like eleanor and a few other characters. Its kind of funny to watch an old movie like that being born in 84.
Primary rig is:
95' F-150 EB 300/6 5 spd with 4" Superlift, MSD, Ram Air, Gibson Exhaust, 32" BFG Muds
NEW PICS IN MY GALLERY!! :-)
Then theres:
88' F-250 Superduty 351 + c6
92' Thunderbird 3.8L V-6 FOR SALE!
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 and a
3 spd column shifter baby.
The newest addition to the Ford family is a 99' Mustang GT 4.6L
Primary rig is:
95' F-150 EB 300/6 5 spd with 4" Superlift, MSD, Ram Air, Gibson Exhaust, 32" BFG Muds
NEW PICS IN MY GALLERY!! :-)
Then theres:
88' F-250 Superduty 351 + c6
92' Thunderbird 3.8L V-6 FOR SALE!
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 and a
3 spd column shifter baby.
The newest addition to the Ford family is a 99' Mustang GT 4.6L
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 11-Apr-02 AT 11:42 PM (EST)]Boy, do I ever to clear some things here.
I have the original movie here in the 25th Anniversary remake.
If you're interested they are $26(Canadian).
The release date for the original was 1974 by H.B.Halicki
These days it would be classed as a "C" movie instead of a "B" movie back then.
This is definitely a CULT film.
Is is close to Amateur Documentary quality by today's film standards
Now,
1)> There were TWO Mach I Mustangs used in the movie.
The Cars were 1973 Mach I's not 74's
2)1st one was replaced at the Car Wash scene. A duplicate car just got washed,he left the half demolished one in the line-up to get washed.
3) 1974 was the first years for the Mustang II
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I have the original movie here in the 25th Anniversary remake.
If you're interested they are $26(Canadian).
The release date for the original was 1974 by H.B.Halicki
These days it would be classed as a "C" movie instead of a "B" movie back then.
This is definitely a CULT film.
Is is close to Amateur Documentary quality by today's film standards
Now,
1)> There were TWO Mach I Mustangs used in the movie.
The Cars were 1973 Mach I's not 74's
2)1st one was replaced at the Car Wash scene. A duplicate car just got washed,he left the half demolished one in the line-up to get washed.
3) 1974 was the first years for the Mustang II
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>So you acelerate in first, push clutch, out of 1st, out
>clutch, rev into 2nd, while engine speed is higher then
>trans you let the clutch out? Is this to get a "jump" into
>the next gear?
>
>
Not Quite
Instead of revving while going into 2nd < you give a quick rev while in neutral and while the rev's are coming down you FEEL the gear into 2nd then let the clutch out.
>
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84 Volvo DL Wagon [/font]
>clutch, rev into 2nd, while engine speed is higher then
>trans you let the clutch out? Is this to get a "jump" into
>the next gear?
>
>
Not Quite
Instead of revving while going into 2nd < you give a quick rev while in neutral and while the rev's are coming down you FEEL the gear into 2nd then let the clutch out.
>
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Double clutching is only used when shifting down, it doesn't work when shifting up, also works good with a two speed back axle. Power shifting is when you hold the acclerator to the floor and just drive the shifter up through the gears as hard as you can. Very hard on the transmission but good for blowing the doors off that smart ask chevy in the next lane.
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Double clutching is not necessary in a transmission with syncro's. The old 'crash boxes' that didn't have syncros would shift down a lot better if you doubleclutched. It is a learned art and you can tell an old 'driver' by his ability to do it. I thought you called nitrous "squeeze". Haven't seen those old movies, would rather work on my Ford projects.
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66Ranger is right on the double clutching. It's for non-synchronized transmissions (or when the synchros are less than adequate). Mostly performed by truckers of past time, or farm tractors.
I don't know what you call the shifting without the clutch at normal acceleration, not power shifting, although I have done it for fun just to see if I could. It's a learned art, and not too good on the synchros.
Winford
I don't know what you call the shifting without the clutch at normal acceleration, not power shifting, although I have done it for fun just to see if I could. It's a learned art, and not too good on the synchros.
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I'd imagine it would better on the engine and tranny to prevent the two from suddenly being slamed togother at competley different speeds if you want to use engine brakeing(but my brakes are already plenty good for my needs).
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ok heres my attemp at an explaination...
>push in clutch
>put in 1
>let out clutch(not dump just normal operation)
>push in clutch
>take out of 1 into nuetal
>let clutch out
>nudge throttle to get rpms up
>push in clutch
>slide into 2
BODDA BOOM BODA BING you just double clutched!!
thats how all the old truckers do it double up and down
as far as shifting without using the clutch most truckers i know only use the clutch when starting off from a dead stop i know i never use it in semis once i get moving and i have always heard it called glidding or floating
if im wrong in any of this please let me know
>push in clutch
>put in 1
>let out clutch(not dump just normal operation)
>push in clutch
>take out of 1 into nuetal
>let clutch out
>nudge throttle to get rpms up
>push in clutch
>slide into 2
BODDA BOOM BODA BING you just double clutched!!
thats how all the old truckers do it double up and down
as far as shifting without using the clutch most truckers i know only use the clutch when starting off from a dead stop i know i never use it in semis once i get moving and i have always heard it called glidding or floating
if im wrong in any of this please let me know
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 13-Apr-02 AT 03:22 PM (EST)]You got it Pontiac, er Taz 
That's how I did it got 24 years.
Btw, Did you get that Taz I sent you ?
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That's how I did it got 24 years.
Btw, Did you get that Taz I sent you ?
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i thought i heard somewere that these trucks are ment to be able to "float" or clutchless shift(i.e. no need to worry about hurting the tranny).
i find it affective and heard from other people as well to
1) shift out of gear with out using the clutch, and
2) just as your out 1st and not quit in second push the clutch in
if you time it just right you push the clutch in just enough to get
into gear(i.e. no grinding like untimed clutchless) and then dump it while ur still in the gas alittle.
i find it affective and heard from other people as well to
1) shift out of gear with out using the clutch, and
2) just as your out 1st and not quit in second push the clutch in
if you time it just right you push the clutch in just enough to get
into gear(i.e. no grinding like untimed clutchless) and then dump it while ur still in the gas alittle.
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You do not need to double clutch a newer car or light truck with synchnonized gears. It is still used by some big rig truck drivers. When I attended truck driver school in Indianapolis in '92 we were taught to double clutch during both up and down shifts. The reason is its easier for a newbie to shift gears in a 10 or 13 speed heavy truck transmission using this method. Most experienced truckers I talk to glide the gears, using no clucth after take-off, but if you are not smooth you will damage the shifting forks inside the tranny by pulling the truck out of gear at the wrong time.