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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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Unhappy Engine Flushing.

Hey!!i done some sandblasting today and drove home after, only to notice that my k'n'n filter had let in a sizable amount of very very fine dust that settled on the air filter base at the mouth of the carb, meaning i sucked the stuff up obviously, now i am worried and i would like to know how affective is an engine flush for this type of problem?
the other thing is ,where do i get the engine flush done at?, how much do it cost ?,and what type of flush is most efective? or is this much more serious than just a simple flush?.
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:06 AM
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Well the first thing to do, since it's obviously letting dirt through, is to get rid of the K&N filter. Short of tearing down the engine I'm not sure there's anything you can really do. Maybe change the oil???
 
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:29 AM
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John , how far down would it have to be torn down?.
when one follows the flow from the carb till the exhaust, which are the areas that this fine dust will damage? i know that the engine flush is said to flush out those areas where the oil circulates, ie: runners, e.t.c, now what about the dust gone into the combustion chamber area where air and fuel go.
help!
 
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 03:55 AM
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Sand can scratch cylinder walls, rings, gum up oil passages. An engine flush probably wont help you.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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I would just get a better filter and hope for the best an engine flush will do nothing.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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I wouldn't be so quick to blame it on the K&N. Make sure your airbox is sealed up correctly, and that there are no leaks after the filter. This is what it sounds like to me. Also inspect your filter for damage.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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Ditto what Rusty said.
I can't imagine any airfilter would let in that much dust. Were you sandblasting under the hood? Or just somewhere nearby.
If the truck wasn't running during the sandblasting operation, how did the dust get sucked inside?
Are you SURE this dust is from the sandblasting operation and not something that has built up over time?
Is the filter properly oiled and no leaks?
I have an oiled media filter and regardless of how dusty the conditions, I have never seen any dust inside the MAF sensor assembly (which is immediately after the air filter).
Something just doesn't add up here ?????
 
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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Sorry guys, I don't buy the K&N hype. Even their own website claims filtration levels that are much lower than stock filters. I've known plenty of people who have been lifetime K&N users (and yes, they know how to seal the filter properly) that have been "unconverted" because of visible dust or damage.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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I agree with the guys. It's probably something that's accumulated over time. Just clean off the exterior dirt and make sure everything is secured properly. Don't sweat the engine flush, an oil change should take care of any silica contamination that may have entered. Check your intake for contamination more frequently, and yes, rethink the K&N if looks like you have a problem keeping grit out.

Nice Ranch Wagon. I havn't seen one of those in years!
 
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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only K&N products i will use are the FIPK and oil filters. at least i got the cone filter on the intake sealed up very tight and im always oiling it and cleaning it.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mustangsvt
only K&N products i will use are the FIPK and oil filters. at least i got the cone filter on the intake sealed up very tight and im always oiling it and cleaning it.
Im one of the bigest defenders of The K&N air filters but If you use to much oil on it you will wind up with a messed up MAF sensor, Then you will be one that flames K&N for messing up your truck,and it was not K&N fault .TO MUCH OIL IS BAD!!!
 

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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Most people report none, or very minimal performance & gas mileage improvements with K&N air filters and intakes.
(Note, more noise IS NOT a performance improvement). Because of this, the increase cost, and potential engine damage from dirt injestion IS NOT WORTH IT!!!!!
 
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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i dont overoil it....i know what the hell im doing thank you. lol. i get better mileage out of my truck. and its noticeable too. but i also take very good care, almost obsessive of my truck. i run the most expensive, and best oil and filters money can buy and i know my truck will last long. i use to use purolater air filters before i had the intake and they were very good...less restrictive than motorcraft but after about 5000 miles they needed to be replaced. no biggie...only $10. i got great mileage with them things and im getting almost a week out of a tank now even with several full-throttle bursts each day on the commute to and from work. 90% of total miles are all highway though....so its not like city driving.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mustangsvt
i dont overoil it....i know what the hell im doing thank you. lol. i get better mileage out of my truck. and its noticeable too. but i also take very good care, almost obsessive of my truck. i run the most expensive, and best oil and filters money can buy and i know my truck will last long. i use to use purolater air filters before i had the intake and they were very good...less restrictive than motorcraft but after about 5000 miles they needed to be replaced. no biggie...only $10. i got great mileage with them things and im getting almost a week out of a tank now even with several full-throttle bursts each day on the commute to and from work. 90% of total miles are all highway though....so its not like city driving.
Glad you ues and like K&N filters
"and im always oiling it and cleaning it" mustangsvt
Just sounded like you where one of thoses people the uses to much oil on your filter.I was stated a fact to much oil is bad .I didnt mean to implie that you didnt know what you where doing,
 
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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guys guys ,nothing to do with the filter here, it's about negligence on the part of the bodyshop, anyone who has sand blasted b4 (MUST) know to atleast cover up stuff , so forget about the filter think of the facts , i have been running the k&n for months now without a problem, i think these guys ran the engine b4 vacuming and or ran the engine while sandblasting".Lawsuit" for those who say an engine flush wont help, i suggest you checkout www.engineflush.com they explaine with pictures too, this is not the flush in a bottle stuff, no ,it's a mechine. i just got an email from these guys they make the mechine themselves and they say" yes the, engine flush will remove all the dust from the oil system and motor".
so guys ,leave the filter story aside, i just got to prove negligence on the part of the bodyshop during the sandblasting of my car which resulted in dust entering the intake resulting in me having a rebuilt motor. i saw the dust and right away i took the keysaway from the shop owner and i pulled the rotor then i got my invoice and called a tow truck, i told them i am not gonna drive it untill after an oil analysis, flush or rebuld and then over to the court.
thank you guys .
p.s i will find y'all something to argue about i can see you desperately need something to match witts about.
thanks anyway.
p.s .go see www.engineflush.com
 

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