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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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Has anyone tryed Amsoil gear oil in a Dana 80??? Going to do a gear change this weekend and thought I might try it. Your thoughts please...Homey
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HOMEYJAMES
Has anyone tryed Amsoil gear oil in a Dana 80??? Going to do a gear change this weekend and thought I might try it. Your thoughts please...Homey
the old boss's race car ruined a set of gears every 2 weeks. didnt matter how i set it up. he never wanted to spend the $$$ on syn.

i got sick of settin up the same 9", and bought it myself and didnt tell him. problem solved....and i got a raise for "fixin" it....told him after the raise.

try it, it cant hurt.

P.S. if u like amsoil, dont pay any attention to the "naysayers" who think u need a little symbol on the can for it to work. ive used amsoil in all i own for many years, and its never let me down. label or not......go w/ what u like
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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On the 10.5 inch axle Ford already specs a synthetic gear oil. What are they spec'ing on the Dana 80?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bighoss550
P.S. if u like amsoil, dont pay any attention to the "naysayers" who think u need a little symbol on the can for it to work. ive used amsoil in all i own for many years, and its never let me down. label or not......go w/ what u like
What bighoss550 is trying tell you about the "little symbol on the can" is a lot of Amsoil products ARE NOT API certified. Now, you have to decide is it worth risking your warranty, paying big bucks for a product that is not API certified? Remember, Amsoil is a multi-level-marketing (MLM) company, where the high price of the product is due to padding a lot of people's pockets!!!
 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 06:49 AM
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What bighoss550 is trying tell you about the "little symbol on the can" is a lot of Amsoil products ARE NOT API certified. Now, you have to decide is it worth risking your warranty, paying big bucks for a product that is not API certified? Remember, Amsoil is a multi-level-marketing (MLM) company, where the high price of the product is due to padding a lot of people's pockets!!!
Well said. It'd be one thing if they were up front about its lack of API approval but instead they go to lengths to confuse you into thinking your actually getting something that is approved. They fooled me once, not again. I won't do business with a company like that, especially since there are many good companies out there producing great API approved products that would work at least as well.

If you value your warranty, make sure you get an API approved product that meets the specs in your owners manual.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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these sre the petty naysayers i was talkin about. the stuff works the same either way, so buy what u like. and dont bother w/ opinions of unexperienced public


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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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bighoss550, they're not "petty naysayers," they are the "truth tellers."

Fact: Amsoil's full synthetic diesel oil is not API certified
Fact: Ford requires the proper API certification
Fact: People have been turned away from the service department because they had Amsoil in the truck. There was a story in this forum a while back about rough idle and the service dept. told the guy to put an API certified oil in it and turned him away.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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OK it seems we are approaching that point in an OIL thread that folks take things a bit personal (imagine that and in an oil thread to boot )....... lets be careful.
Thanks guys...........
 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by johnsdiesel
bighoss550, they're not "petty naysayers," they are the "truth tellers."

Fact: Amsoil's full synthetic diesel oil is not API certified
Fact: Ford requires the proper API certification
Fact: People have been turned away from the service department because they had Amsoil in the truck. There was a story in this forum a while back about rough idle and the service dept. told the guy to put an API certified oil in it and turned him away.
they are not truth tellers. they are amsoil bashers. they tell very little fact except that the oil doesnt have the little symbol on the label. after that all that is happening is badmouthing of me and an oil that has not caused any harm in anything ive known it to be in. i just tried to answer the posed question with my experience w/ amsoil.

true its not certified, but its also 5w-30, so ford says NO anyway. and the tech at a local dealer informed me that "any" syn oil is gonna void it. sooooo it doesnt really matter to me or ford if its "api-certified". its already got 2 strikes against it.

and people (on this forum) have also been turned away (with their truck in pieces) from the dealer, just because they are on this forum discussing their problems. ford dealers can and will turn u away for just about anything to get out of a hard job on ur truck. if it doesnt pay well, they look for a reason to send u down the road. BTW, i know, because i have done it, at the dealer i worked at. if u take on a job that pays 10hrs, and it takes u 25 cuz of the complexities of workin on these crappers u get the shaft!!!!!

he was askin 'bout amsoil, so i told him. i realize that u guys dont prefer amsoil, but ganging up on the few of us who do isnt necessary

besides, he wasnt askin bout engine oil.
 

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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Lamkin
OK it seems we are approaching that point in an OIL thread that folks take things a bit personal (imagine that and in an oil thread to boot )....... lets be careful.
Thanks guys...........
very careful.... bashin the oil in a guys truck is the same as callin him a sucker or a moron.

i take no offense, but please ease up on me. i kinda like my amway-oil
 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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they are not truth tellers. they are amsoil bashers. they tell very little fact except that the oil doesnt have the little symbol on the label.
They didn't post anything that wasn't true and yes, Ford does allow the use of synthetic oil as long as it carries the proper API rating. Just because they are against Amsoil does not make them "bashers," it simply means they have a differing opinion.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by johnsdiesel
They didn't post anything that wasn't true and yes, Ford does allow the use of synthetic oil as long as it carries the proper API rating. Just because they are against Amsoil does not make them "bashers," it simply means they have a differing opinion.
I hate to say it bighoss550, but the Amsoil "brainwashing" has filled your head full of bad information!!!! And like Jeb said, another part of the Amsoil "brainwashing" is down-playing the importance of API certification, the "little symbol" as you call it!!!
 

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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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sorry boys, theres no brainwashing here. it works as good as any oil out there, and its not like ur changin my oil of choice anyway.


i never knew or cared about the "cert" for years.

besides, if ford says the oil blew up my engine, amsoil will buy me a new one.

will ur oil??
 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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sorry boys, theres no brainwashing here. it works as good as any oil out there, and its not like ur changin my oil of choice anyway.


i never knew or cared about the "cert" for years.

besides, if ford says the oil blew up my engine, amsoil will buy me a new one.

will ur oil??
bighoss550,

Here is part of the "fine print" in the warranty section from Amsoil's website:

Notice, how it is worded, if you don't get a written statement from Amsoil on using a NON API certified oil in a vehicle requiring an API certified oil, Amsoil's warranty is
VOID......

THE WARRANTY MAY NOT BE EXTENDED TO COVER:
1. AMSOIL lubricants used in mechanically deficient equipment as a result of abnormal operation; negligence; abuse; damage from casualty, shipment or accident; or equipment modification done without written authorization from the OEM.
2. AMSOIL lubricants that have been used for the purposes of racing or in applications where the OEM required lubricant standards do not match those stated by AMSOIL INC. without the written approval from AMSOIL INC.

With the oil I use, Castrol (and Shell Rotella) which are both API certified, I have no worries that my vehicle warranty will be covered.....Amsoil's warranty is unbelievable, too long to post, but here is the URL for
everybody's benefit......Notice how it's stated about an
OEM manufacturer not covering a warranty due to using Amsoil......does that tell you they have run into this problem before??????????

http://www.amsoil.com/warranty.htm
 

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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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bighoss550,

Here is part of the "fine print" in the warranty section from Amsoil's website:

Notice, how it is worded, if you don't get a written statement from Amsoil on using a NON API certified oil in a vehicle requiring an API certified oil, Amsoil's warranty is
VOID......

THE WARRANTY MAY NOT BE EXTENDED TO COVER:
1. AMSOIL lubricants used in mechanically deficient equipment as a result of abnormal operation; negligence; abuse; damage from casualty, shipment or accident; or equipment modification done without written authorization from the OEM.
2. AMSOIL lubricants that have been used for the purposes of racing or in applications where the OEM required lubricant standards do not match those stated by AMSOIL INC. without the written approval from AMSOIL INC.

With the oil I use, Castrol (and Shell Rotella) which are both API certified, I have no worries that my vehicle warranty will be covered.....Amsoil's warranty is unbelievable, too long to post, but here is the URL for
everybody's benefit......Notice how it's stated about an
OEM manufacturer not covering a warranty due to using Amsoil......does that tell you they have run into this problem before??????????

http://www.amsoil.com/warranty.htm
i do have it in writing. for three different vehicles


take it over to the oil forum.
 
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