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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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04 CC auto 4x4 SW- - 70+ MPH pulling a 7k enclosed trailer & 4 kids, on freeway with a few steep hills- - 11.4 MPG.

Overall combined average on 4k miles is over 16MPG. Best so far 19.5 MPG highway (twice).

And yes it's *very* speed sensitive. I get better MPG on state highways where I'm running slower, like 60 MPH.

The '01 Supercrew 5.4 never got over 15 MPG and got 9 MPG pulling the same trailer on the same trip last year. I'm loving the 6.0!
 
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Crownie
04 CC auto 4x4 SW- - 70+ MPH pulling a 7k enclosed trailer & 4 kids, on freeway with a few steep hills- - 11.4 MPG.

Overall combined average on 4k miles is over 16MPG. Best so far 19.5 MPG highway (twice).

And yes it's *very* speed sensitive. I get better MPG on state highways where I'm running slower, like 60 MPH.

The '01 Supercrew 5.4 never got over 15 MPG and got 9 MPG pulling the same trailer on the same trip last year. I'm loving the 6.0!
Great testimonial…….for horsepower and torque
 
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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2 responses in this 3 pager. Choctaw. I too would like to find some one who may have put in 3.55's (an old post with no replies. do the 3.55's fit from a E-350 van?) A tech on another site did not think it was a good idea even tho the van could tow my trailer and the 235-85-16's are an option. Utahtom when it's hot, the engine (either kind) makes less HP; BUT the vehicle slips thru the less dense air with less resistance and greater milage is attained. High humidity will screw this up. Sounds a little strange but I prove over and over on the Salt Flats every year. I make more HP in the morning but I slip thru the air better in the afternoon. More info; A waxed truck get better milage too. They polished the P-51's just for that reason.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 05:56 AM
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I make more HP in the morning but I slip thru the air better in the afternoon. More info; A waxed truck get better milage too. They polished the P-51's just for that reason.
All has to do with air density. The more dense the air (cooler in the morning) the more friction but better for the engine. The air is less dense in the afternoon when it is warmer with less friction but less horses from the engine. Since these trucks are as aerodynamic as a beveled brick, I imagine that air density plays a bigger factor at lower speeds.

We used to clean and wax rotor blades for the same reason.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 06:03 AM
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Hank,

I went through the same decision making process on whether to buy a 250 CC or a dually CC. I went with the dually with the 4:10, and I am so happy I did. Not because of the gear, but because of the added stability the dual wheels makes. I have pulled the same 10k 28 ft race trailer with my truck and my dad's 03 250 CC 6.0. There is no comparison. Compared to my dually, my dad's truck gets blown all over the place when a semi goes by. On the same interstate trip, Richmond, Va. to Florida, I got 10.9 with dad's 250 and 10.5 with my dually. However, I made the trip empty each way with each trip. Got 19.5 with the 250 and 16.5 with the dually.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim Lamkin
Great testimonial…….for horsepower and torque
I guess that I ought to add that this was with 3.73 gears and I could pass going up steep hills. I have not yet wished that I had picked 4.10's. Plenty of power just with the engine. I'm sure that there are valid reasons for the 4.10's, I just haven't seen it yet.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghoffman
Hank,

I went through the same decision making process on whether to buy a 250 CC or a dually CC. I went with the dually with the 4:10, and I am so happy I did. Not because of the gear, but because of the added stability the dual wheels makes. I have pulled the same 10k 28 ft race trailer with my truck and my dad's 03 250 CC 6.0. There is no comparison. Compared to my dually, my dad's truck gets blown all over the place when a semi goes by. On the same interstate trip, Richmond, Va. to Florida, I got 10.9 with dad's 250 and 10.5 with my dually. However, I made the trip empty each way with each trip. Got 19.5 with the 250 and 16.5 with the dually.

Other than a semi passing you, i.e. just running down the road did you fell a major difference between the dually and the single wheels. I know there is a big one for semis I am wondering about the rest of the time. Most have reported no difference unless you get on a rutted road. Then the dually really walks allot.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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Its better all the time, just most noticeable when a semi passes. Even empty, the dually is more stable...doesn't feel as top heavy. I have never noticed it walking on a rutted road.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghoffman
Its better all the time, just most noticeable when a semi passes. Even empty, the dually is more stable...doesn't feel as top heavy. I have never noticed it walking on a rutted road.
Is your area mostly paved or concrete roads
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by darylhunter
It is pretty easy to calculate the difference in RPM for a given speed for a 3.73 rear end versus a 4.10. Multiply the RPM for the 3.73 rear end by 1.099 (which is 4.10/3.73).

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Getting in a truck with the 3.73 and then into one with the 4.10 and trying to compare the tach differences for the same indicated speed isn't too accurate, nor is the overhead "lie-o-meter"

Daryl
Excellent explanation - One thing I might add is the fuel consumption increases "expotentially' and not linear.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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Well we passed on the dually, and the 2wd f350. We got an fx4 lariat for $1000 than they were gonna sell me the 4x2 and the same price as the dually. Seems to be very stable due to weight, had no problem with semi's on the way to work. Still drivin easy for breakin purposes. will have 300+ on it tonight when I get home. It is a big truck, almost too wide for my shed and too long. Guess I will have to add another just for it!

SHowed it to a friend who is a dodge guy and he really liked it. Said it was quieter and nicer interior than his 03 2500. Plannin a trip up to the mountains this weekend, just gotta figure out a mount for the CB, someplace for the brake controller. Dont want to drill holes in the dash yet. Anyone got any ideas? thinking of a wood rack for over the hump in front of the jump seat.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hank85713
Well we passed on the dually, and the 2wd f350. We got an fx4 lariat for $1000 than they were gonna sell me the 4x2 and the same price as the dually. Seems to be very stable due to weight, had no problem with semi's on the way to work. Still drivin easy for breakin purposes. will have 300+ on it tonight when I get home. It is a big truck, almost too wide for my shed and too long. Guess I will have to add another just for it!

SHowed it to a friend who is a dodge guy and he really liked it. Said it was quieter and nicer interior than his 03 2500. Plannin a trip up to the mountains this weekend, just gotta figure out a mount for the CB, someplace for the brake controller. Dont want to drill holes in the dash yet. Anyone got any ideas? thinking of a wood rack for over the hump in front of the jump seat.
I mounted my Tekonsha Prodigy brake controller in the little cubby hole by the driver's right knee. I drilled a small hole in the rear of the cubby hole just large enough to pass the connector through. This also puts the controller right near your right hand in case you want to make an adjustment - hardly ever do with the Prodigy - or if you want to manually activate the brakes.

I have a ham radio that has a detachable face plate. The bulk of the radio was mounted under the rear seat and I did drill a couple of holes in the dash to mount the face plate just to the right of the cubby hole or there abouts.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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I did the exact same thing with my Prodigy. Had to take the connector apart to pass it through the hole.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghoffman
Hank,

I went through the same decision making process on whether to buy a 250 CC or a dually CC. I went with the dually with the 4:10, and I am so happy I did. Not because of the gear, but because of the added stability the dual wheels makes. I have pulled the same 10k 28 ft race trailer with my truck and my dad's 03 250 CC 6.0. There is no comparison. Compared to my dually, my dad's truck gets blown all over the place when a semi goes by. On the same interstate trip, Richmond, Va. to Florida, I got 10.9 with dad's 250 and 10.5 with my dually. However, I made the trip empty each way with each trip. Got 19.5 with the 250 and 16.5 with the dually.
Which rear end is in your dad's F250?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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3:73 and the dually has a 4:10.
 
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