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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Unhappy Automatic tranny/Mercon SP

I called the service department today and asked them about changing my atf and filter. TO my surprize he told me they where not changing the tranny fluid and filter at 30,000 and that they had not done that for a couple of years now. He did not even now what kind of fluid it took.I said how have you not been changing the fluid most of the 6.0's are just getting to that milage now. I now he did not know what he was talking about. The owners manual says to change the outer filter and fluid at 30,000 miles Also I can not find Mercon sp anywhere ,Does anyone know where to get it???? I dont think the dealer knows what it is....Thats pretty bad if the dealer doesnot know what there talking about
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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The dealer is the only place to get it. Seems to me if they wont release the formula to other oil suppliers they should offer it for free.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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that just sounds screwed up to me if ford is the only one who sells the fluid and they say in the owners manual that you have to use it.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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very true. and because of this, ill be flushing out thatcrap andputting in amsoil syn ATF at 35K!


man, i hate ford! love my truck tho
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 01:39 AM
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amsoil is probly better stuff anyway, Ineed to have some specs on mercon sp so I can compair.....IF I cant get mercon sp but from ford I dont want it . what If you get a leek in your tranny and there is not a ford dealer around .....
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 06:24 AM
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Id think twice about using amsoil. Someone called amsoil direct and asked, they said dont use it as it is not compatable.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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Id think twice about using amsoil. Someone called amsoil direct and asked, they said dont use it as it is not compatable.
who? im sure they will have somethin compatible soon
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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as I see It nothing is going to be compatible.what gets me is the dealer saying you can go over 30,000 miles without changing the fluid and filter....not even knowing if you use your truck for long hauls and really work the tranny ....
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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Amsoil doesn't certify a lot of their motor oil, do you think they are going to bother certifying their ATF????
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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Amsoil told me that the new ATF has less vicosity for better MPG. It's thinner.
They don't have anything at this time.

Ford did something like that with their cars a few years ago when they came out with 5W - 20 motor oil. Couldn't find that either. It's just for the CAFE ratings. It was later disclosed one could use 5W - 30 with no problems. They just needed the 1/1000 of a point for their MPG ratings.

I'm not sure what they are up to with this tranny oil thing. It could be just the same thing.

One would think synthetic would be the way to go. But where do you get it?
Weird.
 

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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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This is an e-mail I recieved from Amsoil.

-----Original Message-----
From: CT [mailto:fieldday@peoplepc.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:55 AM
To: VanPuymbrouck, Jim
Subject: Re: Technical Service Contact Form



When will there be a by-pass filter system for the Ford 6.0 diesel? Also can I use Amzoil ATF in this new automatic?

Thanks in advance.


The bypass filtration system for the 6.0L PSD is under study and no timing (if any) is available presently. The automatic transmission used with this engine uses a new fluid spec not available from AMSOIL.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Amsoil told me that the new ATF has less vicosity for better MPG. It's thinner.
They don't have anything at this time.

Ford did something like that with their cars a few years ago when they came out with 5W - 20 motor oil. Couldn't find that either. It's just for the CAFE ratings. It was later disclosed one could use 5W - 30 with no problems. They just needed the 1/1000 of a point for their MPG ratings.

I'm not sure what they are up to with this tranny oil thing. It could be just the same thing.

One would think synthetic would be the way to go. But where do you get it?
Weird.
I believe SP is synthetic.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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yes the mercon sp is a fully synthetic atf .....now when you look up other syn. atf they show there compatibility...not with mercon sp
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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this is a good topic to cover because if you are not there yet u will be soon. and if you dont want the dealer working on your trucks tranny we need to find out what will work in our trannys.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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Mercon V is a synthetic blend, and full synthetic DOES NOT meet the specs of Mercon V.
 
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