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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 10:37 PM
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Oil pump shaft

Well I goofed! My timing was off and I was trying to move it one tooth. Done it before, no problems! Except this time. The dis was being stubborn about coming out so i gave it a quick little pull and it came bringing the shaft with it. Its not in the pan, just kind of sitting in the hole taunting me. I cant get it out because of the clip. Thats one of my questions; does the clip go on the pump end or the dis end? This one happens to be on the bottom. Any tips resetting it? Its a 67 f100 with a 390, I dont want to wrestle with the pan if I dont have to. Any help would be appreciated!
 
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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Carefully...
Use a screwdriver that takes hex bits (they happen to be the same size as the oil pump shaft). Gently realign it. This is very touchy, you might lose it at any time.
Good luck.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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i got real lucky the last time i pulled my dizzy, same thing happened to me it pulled out of the pump but was just resting on the side of the pump drive shaft hole, i put the dizzy back in gave it a love tap and it fell back in place as i dont reccomend this to anyone but im not sure what else there is to do.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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The retaining clip goes on oil pump end, supposed to keep shaft in pump when removing dist. As Randy says carefully ....
 
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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When you put the dist back in don't tighten the hold down until the dist. drops all the way down in the hole. sometimes you have to wiggle the rotor or even turn the engine over to get it seated properly on the oilpump shaft. If you don't do this it will stick in the dist. as you found out.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 11:15 PM
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I use a large glob of grease on the end of the shaft and use a screwdriver to get it centered in the hole before dropping the dizzy down. Works every time. Without it I don't think getting the MSD distributor in is possible. The stock one was possible but took a glob of grease on the end of the dizy instead.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GLR
The retaining clip goes on oil pump end, supposed to keep shaft in pump when removing dist. As Randy says carefully ....
I think you might be backwards here. The clip goes on the top of the shaft, just under iron gusset that forms the bottom of the dizzy hole. This prevents the shaft from disengaging from the pump when the dizzy is removed. The clip hits the bottom of the gusset before the other end of the shaft can come out of the oil pump. Once it is in place in this configuration the only way to remove the shaft is to remove the pump.

Keep in mind that I may be wrong. People have accused me of it in the past, but I'm pretty sure they were misinformed!

-Scouder
 
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 12:49 AM
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mine dropped in the engine too... it was upright iff to one side, so I got it with a hex socket taped to a dowl rod... fun fun.

if yours is down innthat hole at the bottom of the distributor socket and needs to be settled back into its oil pump socket... ack, better listen to these guys on that.

hey thanks I was wondering where that clip went/how it worked. when I replace my oil pump now I understand!

ya learn something every day.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 04:04 AM
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The clip goes on the distributor end. However, almost every Ford engine I have ever owned had it on the oil pump end. Is there some kind of gene in mechanics that causes them not to understand simple dynamics? It's easy to figure out - clip on dizzy end, shaft does not pull out.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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I just had the same thing happen to me.Cut yourself a length of coathanger
and put a small 90 degree bend on one end.with a good flashlight you can look down and see the clip and the hole in the pump.Fish it in there,carefully.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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Oil pump end meaning below the opening that the shaft goes through ,the retainer hitting the boss is supposed to keep the shaft from being pulled out of the pump when removing the dizzy.
 
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