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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 07:05 AM
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I have been reading about some of the posts about the ignition module and wonder if it has something to do with my problem.
My '77 F-150, 300 CID won't turn over. It has new alt, new reg., and jumping it doesn't help. There is about 8v of draw on battery between the negative cable and post when it is disonnected, measured with meter. Pulling all fuses, I still have the draw.
The solenoid clicks and reads 0 ohms when on.
I can turn the engine over by hand!
 
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 07:08 AM
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The ignition module has nothing to do with it. I would first check the battery cables, then the starter.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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New starter, cables appear good but might be worth trying. Besides, I am also trying to troubleshoot the battery draw.
 

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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jwirth
I have been reading about some of the posts about the ignition module and wonder if it has something to do with my problem.
My '77 F-150, 300 CID won't turn over. It has new alt, new reg., and jumping it doesn't help. There is about 8v of draw on battery between the negative cable and post when it is disonnected, measured with meter. Pulling all fuses, I still have the draw.
The solenoid clicks and reads 0 ohms when on.
I can turn the engine over by hand!
Possibly a shorted to ground starter, maybe just a bad solenoid / connections, ASSUMING battery is proven good. I had a truck that wouldnt jump start, found a defective cell in my battery that was just draining all the jumper boost power. Electrical problems are a pain in the shorts,
 
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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>Electrical problems are a pain in the shorts,

Yeah they are. I completely bypassed the battery and used only the jump battery. No change. I have the same results with the new starter. So I am guessing that either I got a bad starter at Advance (no surprise) or there exists another problem I have yet to find.
I am unable to get the starter to work with battery cables out of the truck. Maybe I have cheap cables.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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try gounding the jumper battery with the old battery disconnected. Stab the pos. lead of the known good battery to the starter side of the solenoid. If the starter doesn't turn it or the cable is bad. If it does you origninal battery or the solenoid is bad.


The solenoid could possibly be the cause of a current drain if it came apart internally.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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8v of draw
I'm a little confused. Do you mean that the voltage drops to 4 volts? If that's the case, either your battery is shot or you have one seriously bodacious draw/short.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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All,
the starter uses every potential amp available and a total voltage drop is not unusual. Measure the drop is though! If the battery is good, then, get a pair of channel locks and short the solenoid. If the starter doesn't kick in then, you've got only a couple of things to replace.
1. starter
2. positive battery cables
3. negative battery cables.
I'm guessing ground is bad. This is the most common failure.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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When I have the negative cable off, if I place digital meter between the cable and post, it reads about 8V.
I think I have two problems.
The more I think about it, and the more feedback I am getting, I think I will double check the cables. I had to fix the negative one recently. Maybe its shot beyond repair.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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These are a good read & may help you in your trouble-shooting


Electrical systems 101

http://www.users.bigpond.com/jack_st...to_elec_1.html


Charging system 101.

http://www.humanspeakers.com/ford/charging.htm#trouble

Ignition system 101

http://tpub.com/basae/40.htm
 
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