Antique Tractors
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Hey everyone,
Does anyone in here happen to have antique tractors? I was just wondering because I have inherited my grandpa's tractor and have been restoring it for two years(since I was 14) and it has been a wonderful learning experience. It is completely done except for one MAJOR problem! The engine is FROZE! I need some advice on how to get it unstuck. We pulled it down the road and later found out not to do that because its bad for it. And we tried turning the lever at the end with a huge iron post. And the wheels. Any others before we haul it off to the local tractor man? (its a 1949 Allis Chalmers WD)
Thanks!
Does anyone in here happen to have antique tractors? I was just wondering because I have inherited my grandpa's tractor and have been restoring it for two years(since I was 14) and it has been a wonderful learning experience. It is completely done except for one MAJOR problem! The engine is FROZE! I need some advice on how to get it unstuck. We pulled it down the road and later found out not to do that because its bad for it. And we tried turning the lever at the end with a huge iron post. And the wheels. Any others before we haul it off to the local tractor man? (its a 1949 Allis Chalmers WD)
Thanks!
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this might not help but the motor on our lawn mower froze up and all we did was to pull the spark plug and spray some industrial strength lubricant/oil and worked the piston up and down and it evetually freed up. i have also heard that marvel mystery oil works well.
good luck
good luck
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We already soaked every cylinder (4), with "Blaster" lubricating oil and it didn't help much. Actually not at all. I've pulled the spark plugs and the valve cover on it. I also took the starter out too because I was told it would ruin the starter to it which would not be good.
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 20-Apr-02 AT 08:55 PM (EST)]I don't have any quick answers for you. But heres what i would do.
Remove crankshaft from block
Remove head
Using a block of wood as close to the cylinder dia. as possible and a big hammer i would try to move each piston down into the cylinder.
Once the piston has moved i would then use a cylinder hone and remove as much rust as possible befor trying to drive the piston up out of the hole.
You might mess up the pistion/ring groves doing this.
Good luck
Remove crankshaft from block
Remove head
Using a block of wood as close to the cylinder dia. as possible and a big hammer i would try to move each piston down into the cylinder.
Once the piston has moved i would then use a cylinder hone and remove as much rust as possible befor trying to drive the piston up out of the hole.
You might mess up the pistion/ring groves doing this.
Good luck
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Hi, go to this site, they know all about old tractors www.ytmag.com I'm sure thry can help you. Those old AC are nice tractors.
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Hey guys speaking of antique tractors do any of you know where i can get parts for a 1942 Ford tractor? I'm thinking of restoring it and I can't seem to find any places that I can get parts for it. On a side note the engine still runs and has never been opened.
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Antique tractors are a lot of fun to mess with. We have several old Case tractors in our family. (Hence the user name) Check out any of the several books by Roger Welsch on his humorous dealings with old Allis tractors and life in general.
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We've restored a:
54 Allis CA
49 " WD
48 " WD-45
45 " B
45 IH M
46 IH M
44(?) Super M, (cant remember year for sure.)
38(?) JD A
54 Ford 901
52(?) Ford 901
43 Ford 8N
and just finished a Massy Harris 44 Special
Best way we have found to get them unstuck is to use rust eater of some type then pull it in 1st gear till it breaks lose. Even if you are gonna re-build it you have to get the engine freed up first.
54 Allis CA
49 " WD
48 " WD-45
45 " B
45 IH M
46 IH M
44(?) Super M, (cant remember year for sure.)
38(?) JD A
54 Ford 901
52(?) Ford 901
43 Ford 8N
and just finished a Massy Harris 44 Special
Best way we have found to get them unstuck is to use rust eater of some type then pull it in 1st gear till it breaks lose. Even if you are gonna re-build it you have to get the engine freed up first.
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We had a 700 Case lock up after sitting for years, and tried the same things you did. I took all the plugs out, dumped WD40 (out of a gallon can) and pulled the starter off. Put a large pry bar on the teeth of the ring gear through the starter hole, and got it to budge, but not far. Went back the other way, and it went a little farther. After continuing to rock it back and forth with the ring gear, we got it to go through a full revolution. Took a while, just gaining a little every time we changed directions, but it did finally work. We then pulled it slowly to work it a little more, then put the starter on and it spun! Drained the oil, put the plugs back in, and it ran! It is still running to this day, seemingly with no problems (we don't use it much, the diesels run cheaper).
I had also tried this with a Case SC, and it didn't work. Couldn't get the motor to make that first little move
I had also tried this with a Case SC, and it didn't work. Couldn't get the motor to make that first little move
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One of our John Deere G's was stuck when we bought it. We poured everything in the cylinder of that tractor, it probably soaked for 6 months. We even tried breaking the pistons loose by pulling it in gear, but even that didn't free the engine up. So, we ended up removing the block and pressing the pistons out with a press. This is a last resort method, because parts tend to break.
'47 John Deere G
'48 Oliver 88
'49 John Deere G
'50 John Deere G
'51 John Deere G
'53 Allis Chalmers WD
'47 John Deere G
'48 Oliver 88
'49 John Deere G
'50 John Deere G
'51 John Deere G
'53 Allis Chalmers WD
