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Old May 19, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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'94 explorer towing problems

I have towed my motorcycle with my 94 Explorer XLT and have had problems 2 of 3 times. My check engine light comes on. Unload and it goes off. I have been told the trans gets too hot. What is the towing cap on this truck? If I read the manual right it is only 5280 lbs and you subtract the vehicle 4140 lbs and its contents including passengers and you get the towing limit?

With three people in the car and luggage I can only tow 400 lbs? the bike OR the trailer weighs more than that. Am I figuring this wrong or do I had to get add on coolers, etc?

Any help or advice would be appreciated. I love my truck but I need something to pull the trailer. ( small utility trailer 6x10 and motorcycle 650 lbs )

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Old May 19, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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Have you pulled the codes to see why the CEL comes on?
 
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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Get a tranny oil cooler before you trash your tranny. Trust me, I learned the hard way!
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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Towing & CEL

I could not check the CEL codes due to the fact it goes off when you unload or unhook the trailer. I am looking at tranny coolers. I just know nothing about them. Will they help alot? How hard is the install? With the tranny cooler how much is safe to pull? 1994 Explorer XLT 115K miles

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Old May 20, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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A tranny cooler won't increase towing capacity, but it will help save it from overheating. The dealer installed a Hayden cooler on mine for the cost of parts when the tranny was replaced. It was about $71 incuding all the hardware. You shouldn't have to pay more than an hour laber to have one installed. Or you can do it yourself, the cooler and kit come separately I think. Shouldn't be too hard.
 
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Old May 20, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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Thanks.

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Old May 20, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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I could not check the CEL codes due to the fact it goes off when you unload or unhook the trailer.
Are you operating under the common misconception that you can't "pull codes" unless the CEL is currently on? If so let me disabuse of this common myth. You can run the self-tests anytime you want -- even if there are no trouble codes to report (in this case you get all system pass codes). Review your instructions (see www.dalidesign.com/hbook/eectest.html) and run the self-tests. It's the only way to know why the CEL came on while pulling your trailer.
On the other hand, if something in the presence/absence of the trailer is legitimately interfering with the self-tests, then there are wiring issues that would need to be addressed.
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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Are you operating under the common misconception that you can't "pull codes" unless the CEL is currently on? If so let me disabuse of this common myth. You can run the self-tests anytime you want -- even if there are no trouble codes to report (in this case you get all system pass codes). Review your instructions (see www.dalidesign.com/hbook/eectest.html) and run the self-tests. It's the only way to know why the CEL came on while pulling your trailer.
On the other hand, if something in the presence/absence of the trailer is legitimately interfering with the self-tests, then there are wiring issues that would need to be addressed.
I went to Auto Zone and was told that unless the CEL light is on you cant get codes. He said once the CEL light goes out it resets and there is no code to get.

Thanks for the info. I will look into the self test.

Joe

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Old May 21, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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I went to Auto Zone and was told that unless the CEL light is on you cant get codes. He said once the CEL light goes out it resets and there is no code to get.
I don't know where the good folks at Autozone got that idea, but it's blatantly wrong, and yet a lot of them believe it. Of course, we need to make allowance for the fact that they are primarily interested in selling parts, and not adequately trained in computer diagnosis (especially for pre-OBD-2 vehicles). The service they provide can be useful, but, as easy as it is to run the EEC-IV self-tests, I prefer to just do it myself.
 
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