When you deal with someone that has taken a stand such as this, I see 3 choices.

1. You can ignore it. Live and let live type thing.

2. You can deal with him through the legal system. Risky, though, people kill each other every day over disputes like this. Things can escalate in a hurry. Suggest you demand the local law enforcement keep the complaint anonymous.

3. You can go illegal your self, and " undercover" so to speak and deal with him outside the law, such as pictured earlier. The risk here is not that this guy will see you, thats easy enough to overcome, its that one of your other neighbors will turn you in for being a brute.

Or, I wouldn't, and don't consider it an option, but you could move.

 

Assuming you are in an incorporated area, you will have elected representatives. Locate and contact yours, provide him/her with whatever documentation (photos) required, and meet personally if possible. If your community has a mayor, contact that office. Political oil is applied to the squeeking wheel - SQUEEK! Please ignore any sage advise that includes shotguns, shovels or fire. Good luck.
Dono

 

I was reading his post and thought of the SAME THING!

 

Unfortunately, the legal route is the only one you can take. Moving the cars yourself, when he is incarcerated is tantamount to theft. The shovel, firearms, fire route is more likely to land you in the slammer than him. Trust me on this, having worked in a prison, you don't want it as your address, no matter how ****ed you are about the whole thing. Nobody is worth going to jail/prison over. If the dogs come on your property, terrorizing you or not, call the animal control, or police if that fails. Your kids don't need to be bitten or mauled. Neiborhood covenants are only as strong as the association. My old 'hood had lots of rules, except for the junk fiero sitting in one dudes driveway for 3 years. When asked to move my boat, I pointed out the fiero and heard nothing again, I moved it may still be there.

 

We don't have a neighborhood association in our area, so maybe court is our only option. At any rate, myself and the other neighbors have been quite reserved when it comes to this guy because we know how he is. But, my feeling now is that's all about to change.

I personally know the mayor of the city that I live in. I may give him a call and see if there's anything that can be done. I'm not sure that there is since we don't live inside the city limits. Anytime the police is called, we get County cops.

Thanks for the help folks.

 

Here is a thought that wont get you in trouble.You know the guys name right?Call a few of the junkyards in your area and tell them that you are him and that you have four junk cars that you might be interested in getting rid of if the price is right.They will go and look at his cars and make him an offer.The thought of money might just convince this guy to get rid of them.

 

Thats a pretty good idea there KT, I didn't think of that.

 

This is a real easy problem. Call up the local parolle authority in your area and tell them someone in their charge isn't making a smooth transistion into society. Tell them he leaves junk laying around which is against local rules and is a public health hazard. You don't want to give your name, because the last person that complained and offered help was answered in a way that implied violence. This guy might be a bully, but there's always someone bigger. It's your duty as a good neighbor to help him learn that.

 

Leash laws do exist. It's possible that the cops can ticket this guy for the dog mishandling. You might need a video camera to prove it. Also, think "Animal Control" next time you see the dogs outside unattended. "Endangering the welfare of a minor" comes to mind when you let foul-tempered dogs get near kids. Wreckless disregard for public safety? Let the cops know the guy is a loose cannon, and that you would prefer to remain "anonymous". Not sure where you are from, but you might have the right to defend yourself from the dogs with a shotgun. When my neighbors dog once started barking at me in my OWN yard, I now keep a junior compound bow around within easy reach.

As for the cars, there's not much you can do - later in this post, read about my own problems with a neighbor with cars. The only thing I can think of is if the cars are not directly on his property, but adjoining the road, you could report them as abandoned to the cops. They would come, check out the VIN's and see if they are stolen ... or, like someone said, call a junky, money talks. Or, better yet, erect a 20 foot section of stockage fence, right near the cars, and then paint some tree-hugging (I like tree-huggers) picture or saying on it. It blocks out your view of the cars, and will serve a public service at the same time

Here in the village of Lindenhurst, Long Island, we do have code enforcement. They are a pain sometimes, I have already been fined $25 for "storage of an unregistered car on residential property" and HAD to get rid of it or register it before answering the ticket. If someone complains, they usually protect the identity of the complainer.

Two or three stories about the good things Code Enforcement does.

First, neighbor lets dog out every morning, afternoon, whenever to relieve itself. Of course, they did not have a fence. I told the husband more than once that the dog was barking at people walking past, and even once growling and baring it's teeth at two little 5-year-old twin girls until their father was able to get a coffee pot of all things out of his minivan and brandish it at the dog enough to keep him from advancing. I saw this from my house, walked out, started yelling at the dog, and scared him off. Related the entire experience to the owner, and NOTHING CHANGED for two YEARS. After getting more and more PO'd at the urine and feces around the neighborhood, I one day see the wife look out the front door at the EXACT same time the dog was defecating on a neighbor's lawn. She looked around to see if anyone was outside, TURNED AROUND and walked back into the house, letting the dog finish it's business, and NEVER picked it up off the neighbor's lawn. Of course, their lawn, house, cars, etc are perfect in every detail. Dog died at 7 years old from massive cancer - gee, wonder if it was all the crap they continually doused their lawn with?

Anyway, after seeing the wife turn around and ignore the dog crapping on the neighbor's lawn, and realizing that it was intentional, I called Code Enforcement. They explained that all they needed was a signed statement detailing times and dates when the dog was unleashed and unattended, a signed letter would be fine, mail it in. So, I did. First time, it's a warning, second time, I think it's a $500 fine. I listed over ten instances when it occured. THEY CONTINUED TO DO IT EVEN AFTER the town CALLED THEM to warn them. I called the town back the next week, and they said send another statement, and they'd whack them big time. I said "warn them again". This time it changed ... but after 6 months they slack off, and it keeps happening. Dog died of cancer soon afterwards.

Second instance, neighbor "kid" (20 or so now) has three to four cars at all times, registered, insured, inspected, but only drives ONE around usually. Sometimes the others move, now we're down to three, and two never move, there's sand gathering on the asphalt around the tires. One has a set of EXPIRED license plates on it, with a NEW set on the dashboard (with the reg sticker) and a NEW inspection sticker (car never moved, has two flat tires, totally illegal sticker). Now, please realize that to insure a car here on Long Island, for a 20 year old, last time I checked was $3500 a year just for liability. If he's under his parent's policy (and off assigned-risk) he's still paying more than $1000 per car. Or maybe the parents are paying it. Takes one of the cars, parks it in front of MY HOUSE. Pulls the engine and tranny as a unit, leaking motor oil, antifreeze and tranny fluid all over the street. 6-foot-round stain in the street, antifreeze runs off into the dirt. After a few days of waiting for the pinhead to clean it up, I called Code Enforcement, asked them to put it on record that I had reported this because I didn't want any DEC/EPA problems. They pleaded with me to give them a signed statement so they could whack this guy in the area of thousands of dollars. I write it up but never send it in, because in the meantime, Code Enforcement has contacted the parents and they make him clean it up. A year later, my wife is talking to his mother, and she mentions how bad I was to report him like that, and that I should have just talked directly to her. Too bad... she didn't get the idea that I could have had him fined out the wazoo, even after having it explained to her. Should have sent in that statement...

Watched another guy across the street build an illegal apartment in his basement for himself and rent out the ground floor to another family. The kid next door already has four cars in the street taking up space, so parking is now at a premium. A year or more later, he decides to redo the front stoop. Need a building permit to alter entrances to a home. Building inspector driving past see them working on the stoop, tells them to "stop work" and get a permit. Upstairs wife comes out, starts yelling at the building inspector and he gets in his Crown Vic, slams the door, slams it in drive, and takes off. That was almost three months ago. Stoop still not finished, they haven't gotten a permit yet. I'm waiting for a complete inspection because they invalidated their Certificate of Occupancy

 

This thread makes me glad that I live on 45 acres in the country, as if I needed another reason.

 

Only 45? I want 100... at least. And access to flowing water to use for a power source. And be on the opposite side of a mountain from Manhattan, in case it's nuked. Oh, and a cable modem, I'll just have to set up amplifiers every so often until the nearest pole

I thought my brother was crazy for leaving Long Island and moving Upstate when he was 35 or so. Now, I'm wondering why I'm 38 and still here ...

 

As far as the cars go how are they harming you? Other than their appearance and the fact you can see them they are not really your problem. He owns them and they're on his property so I'd butt out. Having been on the other end of this kind of 'neighborship' I'm siding with the derelect on this one.

As for the dogs.... isn't it time to change your antifreeze?

 

[QUOTE=76supercab2]As far as the cars go how are they harming you? Other than their appearance and the fact you can see them they are not really your problem. He owns them and they're on his property so I'd butt out. Having been on the other end of this kind of 'neighborship' I'm siding with the derelect on this one.QUOTE]

I feel that the cars and the appearance of this gentleman's residence is dropping my property value. Everyone in the neighborhood keeps their yards picked up, mowed and neatly landscaped. I'm not asking that he spend a ton of money landscaping or anything, but it would be nice if he could move the vehicles to a more hidden portion of his property out of sight and mowed his yard more than once per month. I know he has it in him to do so, becuase every weekend, there's a party at his house, so I know he has the energy, and the last time I saw him mow, his yard equipment seemed to be working well.

I just think that it's common courtesy that when in a subdivision, you should respect your own property as well as the property of your neighbors.

Everyone else in the neighborhood with pets either have them fenced in or walk with them on a leash when they're outside. Why would I want to let his actions cost me thousands in re-sale value of my home as well as his?

 

Yeah, baby!

Sack up and have him killed to make an example of him for the others.
No, really. Here in L.A. we have an abandoned car hotline. Even if it's on your property it can be towed. They come out and slap a ticket on it saying you have 72 hours to move it or bye-bye.

As for the dogs, part deux, I had a neighbor who does this all the time with his little whiners with no leash. Fianlly I let out my 110 lb girl and she went after that dog like she was in heat. SHe would not hurt the other dog but the owner and the dog sure thought she might! Never a problem on my lawn again.

 

Pull the cars onto city roads....there problem now :P