I know a guy that has a 4 cyl tacoma with k&n, exhaust and a supercharger. He thinks it will beat a 210 horsepower ford ranger. keep in mind this piece of trash 4 cyl still only has 190 horsepower and torque. What do you all think?

 

I think I saw the crowd laughing at a little (283 or 327 were the only flavors in that day) small block chev dragster that was going up against a 354 or 392 Hemi dragster.

That Hemi smoked 'em. The tires that is, as the chev went on down the track for a win.

So, other than horsepressure, how are those trucks comparable for weight and gearing?

As Paul Harvey would say, that's the rest of the story. Until you actually run 'em, anyway.

Hope you win.

 

I have owned both ford and toyota and I own a Taco now, and I will always have my loyalty to fords. Stock they have 150HP/190 LB TQ. Just alone adding a supercharger would increase the torque. So your figure of 190HP/190 LB tq is ridiculous.

And 30 horsepower more? Doesn't mean anything, as long as the guy owning the Toyota can drive.

 

That Ranger is definitely a 4.0L and probably is a beefy SuperCab with the way for cut back on Ranger optioning lately.

I thought everyone here said those "foreign" trucks (Taco = made in Kali) have really thin sheetmetal that rusts?? Lighter truck with TRD 'charger....Ranger might lose. Seeing this TRD page, (Yeah, say it..."Turd") a 35% increase over 150 is well over 30 hp increase last time I added it up.http://www.trdracing.com/trdsupercharger.html

(I own a Ranger, but I know where to just tip my cap and let 'em pass...)

Yep, Toy sucks, but they are opening plants while Ford closes them and you can supercharger anything (pretty much) from their factory....Step up Ford.

 

Toyota wins - as long as the driver does his part.

 

yea, i have to give toyota credit, i like there trucks, long reliable, and decent power. i mean look at it, ford 4.0 v6 about 200 hp 4banger toy half the size has 150 thats close to start with add a supercharger and they are even if not a little more to toyota. you could try racing him, but just don't be surprized when you loose.

 

Some people need a little education in what hp really is and what it means...I won't be the one to do it.

The S2000 has 244 hp out of a 2.0L engine, would you say it's more powerful than my 205hp V-8? I hope not.

 

It's all in the torque. And the power:weight ratio. And the driver.

You could drag race a fully loaded dump truck and lose because you blew a shift.

If everything were perfect, ie: same driver, no load, etc, the Tacoma would win. But if you race with a full load, your 4.0 would win.

There's just too many variables. Like this for example: I used to drive a Toyota 2wd truck to work, and on my drive there was a 2 lane into 1 onramp with a curve. I'd ALWAYS take the inside lane because I could hold the line with the hammer down. I'd always beat 5.0 Mustangs to the merge because they can't corner worth a poop, but as soon as we cleared the onramp, they were gone and left me in their dust.

See what I mean?

 

Actually, if you raced a fully loaded dump truck, you'd probably loose because your driving a fully loaded dump truck haha. I don't even know if missing a shift would hurt ya that much

 

those s2000 are more powerfull than the 205 hp v8. faster too, lighter car and more high end power, thats what wins the race. it may not be as much fun to drive because you are always having to rap it out to go fast, but it has the power.

 

The S2000 is faster, but not more powerfull. If you could put that same 205 HP truck motor into the S2000, it would be much faster if the gearing is right. Or how about throwing that S2000 motor into an F150, then see which one is more powerfull. HP is all about how a motor is tuned. Look at the 2v 4.6 for instance, it makes 230 HP in the F150, but in the Mustang GT it gets 260. The difference is that the mustang is tuned to higher RPM's where the truck is tuned for lower RPMs to be better suited for hauling.
Tacoma gets 150 HP @ 4800 RPMs and 177 ft-lbs @ 4000 RPM's out of its 2.7 I-4. There is also a smaller 4 banger available, so that will make a difference on which motor is is. Regardless, even if the supercharger added 50 HP and 50 ft-lbs, it would still have less power and torque than a 4.0. I'm sure the Tacoma is lighter though, but not by a whole lot, so in a race it would probably be a toss up. There are too many variable that aren't known yet. If they are comparable trucks in cab and drive configurations, I think the Ranger will come out ahead. Is the Ranger in question yours? If so, why not take them out and run them, then you'll know.

 

the ranger is not mine. I know a person that has a 2.4 liter tacoma and takes it to the drag strip but they put them up against comparable trucks. They should sort it by by engine class not a cars size.

 

The 2.4 has only
142 HP @5000 RPM
160 ft-lbs @ 4000 RPM
giving it a much lower starting point, knowing this, my money is definately on the Ranger in any configuration.

 

Unfortunately, both texan and AG4.0 are incorrect/mistaken. The s2000 engine is NOT more powerful than a 5.0 V-8 even though it has about 40 more horsepower. The V-8 has 270 ft-lbs or torque while the little honda only has about 150, if that. Also, what horsepower is has nothing to do with an engine's tune, just the amount of hp you can generate does. I guess I will be the one to explain it, horsepower is not a phyiscal measurement of anything, it's just a number. It's a mathematical calculation of torque and RPM. Torque is the rotational force created being measured in ft-lbs, which is a physical force. Torque is how much work is done while horsepower his how fast/quick work is done. My snowmobile has a 2 cyl, 700cc engine, it produces 140hp with a redline of 8500 rpm. The 300/6 cyl in the base F-150 has 160 hp. Do you think I could put that 140hp snowmobile engine into an F-150 and do anything with it? 20 hp is not much, but that snowmobile engine will not really move that truck because it only has 97 ft-lbs of torque, the truck engine has 260. Heres another example.

My mom's mercury cougar has 205hp in a 4.6L V-8, it's the same engine that is in the mustangs but the mustangs are rated at 225hp (the 96 ones for example). You want to know where that extra hp comes from? Part of it is in the cam, but the major reason is because the redline on the cougar's engine is only 5500 where the mustang is 6250, higher redline = higher hp.

This is why the honda has such a high hp rating, because it tachs out at 9k rpm, as well as my snowmobile which tachs out at 8500. Diesel engines always have much lower hp ratings than torque ratings because they're redline is so low. Once again, hp is just a mathematical calculation of torque and rpm. Make sense now?

 

Hey Justin, reread my post and tell me if what I said was wrong. I agree with you that the V-8 is the stronger motor. In a scense, HP is about how the motor is tuned, you can tune it for higher RPM's to get more HP, tune it lower you will have less HP but will have more useable torue for a truck. I think we're saying the same thing, just in different words. Sorry if my post was confusing. I know what troque and HP are. 5252 is the constant in the HP equation. I'm not trying to start something, I just want it to be clear that I prefer the torquier motors.