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Old May 14, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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RLH, thanks for the great description of how the different selectables work and all, much appreciated.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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i guess a better question would be, what would you rather be fixing? a bad shift fork, or a couple inches of air line, from what i have herd, youd be better off with the ARB. and this is just my opinon, but stay away from any locker that works as a limited slip when its not activated, that just adds to the problems and takes down the durrability. have you ever seen a posi nuke? emagin how much more painfull it will be to know that that was a $700 exsplosion!
 
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Old May 14, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jojo_3838
i guess a better question would be, what would you rather be fixing? a bad shift fork, or a couple inches of air line, from what i have herd, youd be better off with the ARB. and this is just my opinon, but stay away from any locker that works as a limited slip when its not activated, that just adds to the problems and takes down the durrability. have you ever seen a posi nuke? emagin how much more painfull it will be to know that that was a $700 exsplosion!

I agree but I've never seen a Detroit TrueTrac nuke because it is a operated gear deal. I have had people to argue with me that the TrueTrac isn't really a ls. The Eaton ELocker is open when not on. I think the Auburn Elected should be limited to 64 Chevelles and 71 mustangs. There are other air lockers out there now as well as the ARB.
 
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Old May 14, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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I agree but I've never seen a Detroit TrueTrac nuke because it is a operated gear deal. I have had people to argue with me that the TrueTrac isn't really a ls. The Eaton ELocker is open when not on. I think the Auburn Elected should be limited to 64 Chevelles and 71 mustangs. There are other air lockers out there now as well as the ARB.
in all fareness though, how long has the truetrac been around? on a year or so, i really think time will tell, they are weaker than the open setups due to the need of more inernals, and more things to wear out along with less bulk on the carrier itself for strength.
 
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Old May 14, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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in all fareness though, how long has the truetrac been around? on a year or so, i really think time will tell, they are weaker than the open setups due to the need of more inernals, and more things to wear out along with less bulk on the carrier itself for strength.
The Detroit TrueTrac has been around for at least 20 years. I've been running them front and rear in a 97 F250 HD front and rear for the past 4 years which is how long I've had the truck. The Detroit Electrac is based on the TrueTrac when it is off. When its on it functions like a Detroit Locker.
 
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Old May 14, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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The Detroit TrueTrac has been around for at least 20 years. I've been running them front and rear in a 97 F250 HD front and rear for the past 4 years which is how long I've had the truck. The Detroit Electrac is based on the TrueTrac when it is off. When its on it functions like a Detroit Locker.
oh sorry! thats not the product i was thinkin of, i was reffering to Detroits electric locker
 
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Old May 14, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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I really like the concept of the Ox locker, but the company itself is extremely shady. Perhaps one of the worst reps in the business for customer support and response, as Ivan mentioned. Several times it looked like they were going out of business. I would never buy one of their products because I don't want to be left holding the bag.
 
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Old May 16, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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I think I like the concept of the Detroit Electrac being a fully gear operated limited slip, no clutch plates to wear out, and then a locker, with no shift fork to worry about, if that is the way they are actually built. I would like some traction available when not fully locked.
 
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Old May 17, 2004 | 02:32 AM
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When it comes to lockers, there are only two I would consider....detroit and ARB....trail proven and time tested....just my opinion.
 
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Old May 17, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalDesertRider
I think I like the concept of the Detroit Electrac being a fully gear operated limited slip, no clutch plates to wear out, and then a locker, with no shift fork to worry about, if that is the way they are actually built. I would like some traction available when not fully locked.
whenever you add more, theres more to fail, if there is nothing to wear out, then how does it "limit slip?" other wise its just more parts taken away from the strength of the carrier.

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When it comes to lockers, there are only two I would consider....detroit and ARB....trail proven and time tested....just my opinion.
agreed
 
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Old May 17, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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whenever you add more, theres more to fail, if there is nothing to wear out, then how does it "limit slip?" other wise its just more parts taken away from the strength of the carrier.


agreed

Detroit TrueTracs don't "wear out" any faster than a Detroit Locker and the True Trac DON'T have clutch packs. They've also been around a long time.
 
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Old May 17, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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Detroit TrueTracs don't "wear out" any faster than a Detroit Locker and the True Trac DON'T have clutch packs. They've also been around a long time.
dude, like i said before, im not talkin about there limited slip, im talking about there manual locker that acts like a limited slip. and im not saying that there not durable, im saying that the ARB is stronger by desighn
 
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Old May 17, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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dude, like i said before, im not talkin about there limited slip, im talking about there manual locker that acts like a limited slip. and im not saying that there not durable, im saying that the ARB is stronger by desighn
Dude, they don't have a manual locker that acts like a limited slip, they have a manget actuated (via electric) selectable that IS a Detroit Truetrac when its not on.
 
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Old May 17, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Dudes,



Sorry guys, I just HAD to do it
 
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Old May 17, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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Dude, they don't have a manual locker that acts like a limited slip, they have a manget actuated (via electric) selectable that IS a Detroit Truetrac when its not on.
so what if its magneticly activated, that makes it under your control to when it comes on, thus MANUAL locker, in comparison to the detroit no spin being a manual locker. And im still not argueing about clutches wearing out, i now under stand to what you have told me that they dont do that (it doesnt make sense to me but im gona take your word on it ) but still!!!! i have seen truetracs (the origanal NON locker version) nuke, i have seen two myself and between me and my friends that makes a few more, the system really just does not due well with shock loads which of course comes from it differeating from unloaded tire to loaded tire. i have to ask the question, has anybody seen a ARB brake in any other way other than seals wearing out and the air hose brakeing? i have not personally. i just have personally seen enough to dislike limited slips especially when put up to bigblocks with big power.
 
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