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Old May 4, 2004 | 08:07 AM
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Desktop Dyno 2000

Does any one have any DTD files for 400 stock heads? and/or other files for the program that I can use for my 400?

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Old May 4, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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Here is a link to Head Flow data. You will have to input it into the program and then save it to your hard drive for each head that you want to model.

http://home.isoa.net/%7Emharrisj/fordhead.html

What other files do you want? I have a Cam Disk with lots of cam files, but not all. My Cam Disk came with Dyno 2K. Others I input the specs and save to the hard Drive.
 
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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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Thanks, that helps alot just one questions though is asks for test diameter. What should I put in there leave it as it set to .750 and .500 or do I change that to my valve size? either way my torque stays the same but my horse power changes by about 100 when I change it.

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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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You should put in the valve size of the heads that are being flow tested. When you use the files then put the valve size of your heads (they might be the same) in the Dyno menu.
 
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Old May 5, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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Wow how accurate is this thing because I am getting some impressive numbers for both HP and Torque. Should my cam specs be set to “seat to seat” or “@.050” I am putting in the lift at valve measurement in. When I put in the seat to seat I get some Nice numbers, but when I put in the “@.050” setting I get numbers that seem very low to me. I have read the help section that came with this program but it does not seem to be all that helpful LOL. I can post a link to my dyno file if you would like to see it.
 
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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Get the book that goes with it if you want to learn how to set it up properly. There are many settings that are not what they "seem" to be.
 
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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Let me see your file. Dyno 2000 can be fairly accurate, but you have to use it correctly.
 
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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I ran into a problem when I ran my flow numbers. If you don't alter the valve sizes in the flow chart to your valve sizes, you'll come out with numbers about 40 HP too high.
 
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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I have been trying to reproduce the numbers from the Hot Rod mag build. I come up short in both torque and horsepower. Of course I don't know what their head flow was, or what kind of intake manifold they used. Also I can't simulate a 'Y' pipe into a single flowmaster either. The best that I get is 368 HP @5000 RPM vs their 380@?, and 427 ft-lbs torque@3500 RPM vs their 468 ft-lbs @? RPM. Overall I think Dyno 2000 gives me a fairly good simulation of this motor.
 
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Dan, would you say that DTD is more conservative, as t the power it gives?
 
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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No, I don't think that it is more conservative. I think that the difference I obtained is due to insufficent knowledge about the Hot Rod test motor.
 
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Thank you for responding.
 
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Here is an explanation of why you get different results between Seat-To-Seat timing or 0.050 timing.

The Dyno2000 will simulate camshaft
motion for both Seat-To-Seat and
0.050-inch cam timing. However, the
internal simulation model requires
seat-to-seat event timing to accurately
calculate the beginning and end of
mass flow in the ports and cylinders
and must derive seat-to-seat timing
from 0.050-inch figures. Unfortunately,
this cannot be done with high accuracy.
So, whenever possible enter
seat-to-seat timing to obtain the most
accurate simulation results.

The Hot Rod build cam spec is @0.050, so my simulation has that error. I should try to estimate the seat-to-seat timing and run that.
 
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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I plugged in 268/280 seat to seat timing for the Hot Rod cam. I got 440 ft-lbs torque@3500 RPM and 358 Hp@5000 RPM. So,it appears that there is still something that I don't know about that motor. I'll bet it is head flow.
 
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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Here is the link to my .DYN file, alod in there will be 2 other cam choices that IO might use, they are bigcam and small cam.

http://www.thelongroofs.com/files/
 
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