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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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Help with '02 Expy VCP problem?

Hello all. I'm new to your forum and the owner of a new (new to ME, anyway) '02 Expedition XLT. My girlfriend's son dropped the VCP remote into the VCP. Rather than fish around inside the VCP to retrieve it, I unscrewed the VCP/6-disc CD combo and unplugged both of the electrical connections. I tipped the VCP on it's side and then completely upside down. Sure the remote came out, but took the path of a slow moving pin-ball. Upon re-assembly, the factory VCP and the factory overhead LCD will NOT power up. BTW, the CD player portion of the combo works fine. The owner's manual doesn't address the VCP and the rear entertainment system manual only suggests notifying the dealer if the unit(s) won't power up. One dealer says it's probably a fuse in the fuse box, but I could't find an applicable fuse in the lower driver-side fuse-box nor in the high-current fuse box under the hood. Another dealer says there's a fuse "within the center console" where the VCP/CD combo are located. I looked and couldn't find it. Any experience out there? Is there a fuse and, if so, where? Did maybe the bouncing remote fry a circuit board in the VCP? Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Hi 609

My Y2K Xlt doesn't have this option and I don't know anything about it, but electronic items sometimes have inline fuses.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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Thanks for the quick response, canuk. I fished around the bottom of that center console as much as I could and couldn't see/feel anything like an in-line fuse. Since I'm still getting to know this vehicle (and don't want to break anything else!!!!), I'm reluctant to dis-assemble a bunch of plastic and search any deeper.
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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Fuse #8 5 amp under dash, 4 amp inline fuse just behind connector to back of unit.
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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Hello, "Fordtech 1". Thanks for the reply. The *8 5-amp fuse under the dash checks out OK; I even switched that 5-amp with another 5-amp fuse thinking that maybe I couldn't see the burnout. Still no power to VCP. I checked out behind the connector to the VCP: it's wrapped in elec. tape, but there's a "lump" in the taped wires about 2" or so behind the connector. Is that lump the inline fuse to which you refer? I'll wait to hear from you before I attack it with a razor blade. As you can tell, I'm not an electrical/electronics guy. Thanks again.
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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By looking at the schematic...yes...however, have not been there, don't know for sure, but there is supposed to be a 4 amper in there just beyond the connector for the unit.
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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No joy!!! The "lump" in the tape only covered lumps of electrical tape covering pairs of wires. Not a very professional job in my opinion; sloppy previous owner, sloppy out-sourcing by Ford or sloppy Ford. If nothing else, I made it look a little better. Thanks for the help; if you can up with anything else, let me know.
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Did you check power to the unit?
THE VIDEO SYSTEM IS INOPERATIVE
CHECK VOLTAGE TO THE VIDEO DISPLAY
Video Display C960
Measure the voltage between the video display C960 pin 1, circuit 1002 (BK/PK), harness side and ground.
Is voltage greater than 10 volts?
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Sorry, but you're WAY over my head!!! Besides, I don't have a schematic diagram.
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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If it is still under warranty best take it to the dealer before it gets injured any further. Fuse 8 provides the power so if its good and you get no powerup the unit is likely bad. Since the display and unit work together the display probably wont light up if the VCR is not able to power up.
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Hello "homer...". Thanks for the input. I have an appointment on Tuesday with an electronics repair shop to whom the local Ford dealer farms-out audio/video/electronic work. I was hoping I could get a quick fix at this forum, especially locating the elusive 4-amp in-line fuse. I'll prepare a little write-up of my exploits so far. Thanks again.
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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I tried to find that fuse on the Ford DVD but it only showed fuse 8. The other one may be for the dealer installed version. I can only speculate at this juncture.
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Homer, I'm looking at the revised EVTM on page 132-1 which shows the 4 amp fuse near connector c396.
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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Thanks Ford Tech.. Im still using an old original DVD 96-2003. Should have gone to PTS and looked for a revised one. Sigh...
 
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Old May 1, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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Still, leaves us with the WHERE IS IT problem tho!
 
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