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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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2004 4x4 Questions

Anyone know what type of front end is in on the new F150 4x4's? It looks like a front wheel drive setup - can this truely be classified as a 4x4, or is it a glorified AWD system??? The rear end is a 9.75", but what size is the front end? Those darn CV boots are TROUBLE waiting to happen, and those little, unprotected 1/2 shafts appear vulnerable.

Another question, what's the difference between a 3rd member and a transfer case? Which one is on the new 4x4 F150's?

Sorry I'm full of ****y questions to night - thanks for the patience.

Hey, anyone know if Ford will be offering a locker option with the new 2005's? It'd be nice to bring the "details" up to par. L/S & Posi's are passe'.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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AWD usually infers that there is a viscous fluid coupling in the center instead of a transfer case so both front and rear differentials are not directly linked.

I'm assuming your comment is that the front does not have a solid axle? With the articulated half-shafts in the front, the wheels still spin the same as if it was a solid axle. But they can give it a much better suspension and ride.

My vote is genuine 4x4.

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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 08:25 AM
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IzInBloOm, do you know if the front setup is like the 97 - 03 where it locked up at the diff and there was only a CV joint at the wheel? To me it still looks the same, but I haven't really crawled under to inspect it.
 
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Old May 2, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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so, would the front end be a advantage or disadvantage, as compared to a solid tube in the front?

to me, it would be easier for an object to either bend the 1/2 shaft and/or puncture the CV boot allowing water & debris to attack the bearings.
 
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Old May 2, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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kingfish51.....I am not sure what you mean by "locked up at the diff", but if you have a CV joint at one end you have to have one at the other end of the shaft.
grey77... IMO it has both, advantages and disadvantages. Better ride with independent suspension, when one tire hits a bump it doesn't affect the other side. Solid axles are more durable. GM has used CV joints since 1988. My 1993 GMC had 100k miles when one boot cracked and when I sold the truck with 150k miles the other side still had the original boots.
 
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Old May 2, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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dgdee, what I meant was the the 97-03 had a CV joint only at the wheel, there was no hub. The axle always turned. When you put it in 4X4 a vacuum motor caused the front diff to lock up.
Previous years had a hub that had to be locked up and the diff was one that was always locked up (meaning if driveshaft moved, axle moved).
I was wondering if the 04 is the same as 97-03 or older models.
 
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Old May 2, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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kingfish51... There are 4 CV joints in the front. The half shafts rotate all the time. I would assume the 97-03's also had 4 CV joints, I don't know how else it could be done.
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 06:33 AM
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dgdee, I understand about the CV joints. My question is more related to whether they are attached to a "hub" that locks in and out or whether they are "hubless" like the 97-03.
 
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