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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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I am a diehard fan and will always be, but you know what I would like to see, after all NASCAR is "stock" car racing, I would like to see them take "STOCK" factory cars, modify them with a roll cage, safety seat, 5 point harness, and race them in there true form for 500 miles, the Fords and Dodges are not available from the factory with a V-8s nor are they rear wheel drive. There is nothing stock about NASCAR racing today, infact about the only way to tell the make of a car is by the grill and headlight stickers used on the front, remove those and the manufacturers name and nobody would be able to tell what manufacturers we even on the track.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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The monte carlo is FWD and has a 3400 v6 does it not?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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Yes, you are correct, been a whille since I paid attention to one. Well then more fun for all then, that would make it even more fair, it would certainly change the definition of to loose or to tight in the corner.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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I enjoy NASCAR racing. I do wish the cars were more like production cars. As in NAStockCAR! Show me where you can buy a new RWD V8 powered pontiac. (With a PONTIAC block).

As to the rules, they chage every year. Supposedly to level the playing field. Used to be 400+ cid cars ruled the tracks. Now 350 is the limit. I say have a set of rules and if the mfgr wants to be competitve, they'll build a car that can compete. I'll have to wait and see how this years rules changes pan out. I think they are going to end up being anti-competitive. Why would teams that have no chance in the cup chase even show up at the last 10 races.

I think if they want to make the last race of the season more watched, make the winner of the last race the winner of the cup series.

Restrictor plates -- hate 'em. Why not mandate a top gear/rear gear combo that specifies a certain RPM at a certain speed. Say 9000 RPM at 190 MPH. The teams can build any car they want. If they want to chance going faster they can risk blowing up the motor or put the money into a motor that can run at 10,000 RPM for 4-6 hours.

The Earnhart clan. Well I didn't like Dale but I'm warming up to JR. I think his dad was a dirty driver that whined when other drivers gave him what he was dishing out. I actually saw him complain after he was wrecked at the end of a race by a driver he had wrecked at a previous race. AND the driver who wrecked him actually said the exact same thing Dale said when he was wrecked. "I didn't mean to put him in the wall. I just wanted to rattle his cage a little bit." BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHA gasp. pant...................... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Toyata. If they can compete, bring it on. What do the domestics have to worry about. Why should we have to "protect" domestic truck mfgrs from anything?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 12:27 AM
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They should bring back the old cars - Novas, Mustangs, etc. Sort of like a classic Nascar. I think that would get some attention. Those out there with some fixed up classics could race them for real, and maybe (now I'm really dreaming) Ford/Chevy would actually reproduce those originals, as they were then - not some modern day crap version full of plastic and a wimpy "engine" with oh-so earth-friendly emissions...

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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ryaneverk2
They should bring back the old cars - Novas, Mustangs, etc. Sort of like a classic Nascar. I think that would get some attention. Those out there with some fixed up classics could race them for real, and maybe (now I'm really dreaming) Ford/Chevy would actually reproduce those originals, as they were then - not some modern day crap version full of plastic and a wimpy "engine" with oh-so earth-friendly emissions...

Ryan
There's about as much chance of that happening as there would be to get Ralph Nader to enter a Corvair in the race.
Come to think of it...it would be fun to see him strapped into a Prius hybrid, racing at Daytona against the NASCAR boys. They'd have to put a litter box under his seat!

MR
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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I still want to see them race on dirt....
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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NASCAR should do away with restrictor plates and trying to make deals with other teams. The new rule with points is the dumbest thing they came up with. Matt Kenseth won the points race because he was consistant but they should give some bonus points for winning. Toyota shouldnt be alowed in the truck races they should keep it to the USA made Ford, Chevy, Dodge
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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Aren't dodge trucks made in mexico now?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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i think nascar is almost dead as far as what it used to be. anyway, i thought it stood for North American Stock Car Auto Racing, so how does toyota get to play, even if it is in the truck series? just my .02
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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I guess it should just be called AR now Auot Racing
Not as american any more.
FAR from stock
And trucks are not exactly CARS

so we take of the NASC......
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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what do you guys think about the points system used in the cup serious?

American made cars only in nascar no ifs,ands,or,buts
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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what do you guys think of the new points system used in the cup series?

Only American made cars and trucks should be allwoed? Ford,Chevy,Dodge no TOYOTA all they are is little plastic toy trucks
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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it can be considered good that they're all the same basically, that way, the winners show off the fact that their good setup, and driver skills won the race
If I wanted to see the drivers in identical cars, I would watch I.R.O.C. It was better when the thunderbird was the thunderbird and the monte carlo the monte carlo. You could go buy a car that looked just like the one they raced.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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i think nascar is almost dead as far as what it used to be. anyway, i thought it stood for North American Stock Car Auto Racing, so how does toyota get to play, even if it is in the truck series? just my .02
Well,
1. It's BUILT in North America
2. It's being RACED in North America
3. It has a V8.

What's the problem? If they can compete in the race, let them.
 
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