So doesn't that solve the plow issue?

 

Whats the problem with coil springs? Coils offer a better ride, better handling, and less noise and weight over the leafs.. I don't think .0005% of SD owners plow snow so if thats all you loose whats the big deal?

 

Amen! But seriously.. I think this package wil solve even the plow issue.

Yeti.. will it work?

 

What is wrong with Coils and Plows? A Spring is a Spring is a Spring.. If the rate is high enough who cares if its coils or leafs? I'm not a Big plow guy being from Southern California but I do know that spring rate is spring rate. It dosnt matter if its Leaf, Coil or Torsion bar. Is there something on a snow plow system that dosnt like coils?

 

Yes, this does solve the plow issue. This package makes the spring rate very stiff. Sure your ride will be stiffer, frankly I want my ride to be stiff.

Also, there is a seperate "Plow Package" available.

So basically, I dont see any ill effects of what ford did to the 2005 superduty. Hopefully the exterior changes are good looking.

 

6.0Diesel, from my understanding the strongest front end to get in 04 was the snow plow package (6000 lbs rating) and that was not available for some or all diesels. the heavy service suspension (5200 lbs or 5600 lbs)is nothing new and the rating was less than the snow plow package.

 

Other interesting tid bits:

on page 5 it shows 3.73, 4.10 and 4.30 gears available for the V10. That's a first. Could be a typeO. The 275/70Rx18 tires are 33 +" in diameter. (I imagine replacement costs are now double of what 16" tires costs ) There is now a "premium bodyside and lower accent" two tone option. Secondary glove box with autotransmissions. 4 ton hydraulic jack instead of the 2 ton screw jack.

Jeff, if you had to guess, what color is "Dark Stone"? I'm hoping it's a metalic brown of some sort.

 

Yep. That would be my guess. Only available with the tan interior, so it must be a brown color, not a grey color.

 

super duty spy pics

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/2005...ty/caught.html

super duty tonka concept

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/auto...ord/tonka.html

Ford Mighty F-350 Tonka Concept Technical Specifications

Dimensions
Length: 242 inches
Width: 93 inches
Height: 84 inches
Wheelbase: 165 inches
Track width, front: 74 inches
Track width, rear: 80 inches


Engine
- Power Stroke® Super-600 concept: 32-valve, turbocharged, 6.0-liter V-8 diesel with cast iron block and heads and forged steel crankshaft
- Displacement: 363 cubic inches / 5,954 cc
- Bore: 3.74 inches / 95.0 mm
- Stroke: 4.13 inches /105.0 mm
- Compression Ratio: 18.0:1
- Injection: Electro-hydraulic w/Generation 2 fuel injection
- Turbo: Electronic Variable Response Turbocharger (EVRTTM)
- Emission Controls: Diesel oxidation catalyst, electronically controlled exhaust-gas recirculation
- Horsepower: 350 @ 3,300 rpm (estimate)
- Torque: 600 lb-ft @ 2,000 rpm (estimate)
Transmission
- PowerTorq™ five-speed automatic concept
- Gear Ratios:
1st 3.09
2nd 2.20
3rd 1.54
4th 1.00
5th 0.71
Reverse: 2.88
- Shift control: Fully electronic solenoid control of clutches with adaptive learning capability


Four Wheel Drive System
- Rear- or four-wheel drive with low-range transfer case and limited-slip rear differential.
- Manual Torquemaster override

Suspension
- Front: Live axle with air springs, stabilizer bar
- Rear: Live axle with air springs

Brakes
- Four-wheel disc brakes
- Four-wheel anti-lock brake system


Wheels and Tires
- 22 x 11-inch chrome wheels
- 315/60R-22 Goodyear tires
- Dual rear wheels

Going over the order guides for 2005 Super Duties and Excursions, here's the changes I can see:

Increased Torque for the 6.0L
New mono-beam front axle w/ coil spring suspension on 4x4
New 3 valve 5.4L and 6.8L gas engines
TorqShift trans avail w/ gas engines
Larger Rotors and new Master cylinders on brakes
Engine Idle Control included w/ the 6.0L and 6.8L engines
Upgraded frame for greater Load capacity
Increased rear GAWRs, GVWRs, Payloads and GCWR
Engine Block Heater is optional on 6.0L except for AK, CO, IA, ME, MN, MT, ND, SD, WI, WY.
Trailer Brake Controller - optional
Upfitter switches(4) Located on IP

All new 18" wheels on SRW
All new 17" wheels on DRW
New Grille
New Dual Beam Headlamps
New Front Bumper
New Exterior Badging
New Lower Accent Two-tone Paint Option on XLT and Lariat
New Premium Bodyside & Lower Accent Two-tone Paint option on XLT
Arizona Beige Accent color now available with the XLT Two-tone Paint options

New Secondary glove box on auto trans.
New dash with New gauge cluster
TurboBoost gauge on 6.0L
New Radios

Colors Added:
Dark Stone Clearcoat Metallic (XL, XLT and Lariat)
Dark Copper Clearcoat Metallic (King Ranch Only)
Dark Green Satin Clearcoat Metallic (King Ranch Only)

Colors Deleted:
Dark Green Satin Clearcoat
Estate Green
Chestnut Brown

Deletions:
Max Front GAWR Package
Lariat LE Package

Options Revised:
Power Moonroof now requires Advanced Security Group

Lariat Luxury Package
-Electronic Auto Temperature Control
-Electrochromic rearview mirror
-Bronze-faced instrumentation cluster w/unique gauge color
-Enhanced message centerw/ Trip computer
-redundant Steering wheel controls
-Woodgrain instrument panel insert
-Center console w/ Woodgrain applique

Excursion stays pretty much the same with the exception of 18" wheels now optional on Eddie Bauer and Limited.
Egg crate style grille changes to nostril style
Jeweled Headlights replace crystalline

 

When will the pricing be available?

 

Probably a couple/few weeks before Job1 in mid-July. So mid-late June.

 

you can always 'build your Ford' online at the ford.com site. I found they update the prices/features available fairly often.

For example -- the King Ranch I bought in December isn't available exactly the same as it was in December and it's a 2004.

 

Do you think that the grill can be bolted onto a 2002? I like the look.

 

the aftermarket grills avail for the current models are pretty sweet too

 

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned them changing to 18 inch wheels; Is BFG or anyone making good mud tires in that size? If not, I bet they will be soon!
mike