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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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at the most you might have to trim the inside rim of the tire!
I think you're looking at it backwards Jason, the tire is already slightly too big for the rim. I'm wondering if this would cause problems with the bead sealing. 1/10 of an inch isn't much but I'd like to see one on a 16" first, or I imagine beadlocks would solve the problem.

I'm not going to say that it can't be done but I have my doubts that you could stretch that onto a 16.5" rim without breaking anything. Very interesting though, I would LOVE to have a set of these for dedicated mud tires. I was looking into 44" boggers but the price kills me.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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how many miles do you think that you could wring out of them?
dont you think that you could trim the lip to 16.5" from the 16.1" original, or would it be too unstable?
Im interested...
 
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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I see trimming the lip as a recipe for massive air leaks, inless you go to a tube setup. In terms of mileage . . . um, I don't know that these would be a good idea for the road. Still, with tread that deep, if the cops don't kick your butt and you can live with the bumpy ride I'll bet you can get some distance out of them.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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they are not DOT approved. you will get a ticket if you try and run the on the road.

well, heres the deal. im going to go buy/borrow one of the 33" tires and borrow a 16.5 wheel from a friend. ill get the guys to mount it up on the rim and see how that goes. IF that goes, then we have a tire that will fir a 16.5 for really cheap.

ALSO

for the larger tires, it is not worth it to ship these, they are some big *****, and weigh a lot. much more than a bogger of the same size. with the larger tire i am going to see what i can do as far as getting a new center made for the wheels that they are already mounted on. they are removable centers much like the hummer wheels. the bolt pattern on them right now is 8on8. ill look into costs to getting a set for 8on6.5. Pro, Ivan, this is probably what you are looking for?? something big on a wheel that fits?? ill see what i can do for you 2 since you are somewhat near.

ill keep you all posted throughout in searching.

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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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I run those 16.5 tires on the front wheels of my tractor on 16.5x10" rims. They are practically the same size as 12.5-33 x 16.5 tires.

The big problem is that they are *tractor tires* which means they are designed for incredible traction and low speeds. My tractor will go about 23 MPH top speed in the highest road gear and the tires are designed for that speed. Running at speeds much above 25 MPH will wreck this sort of tire. Running on any type of asphalt or concrete will wear them down pretty quick.

If you were into low speed off-road use in very muddy conditions, tractor tires would work very well. You have a coice of tread patterns. R-1 (agriculture tires) with large deep treads or R-4 (industrial tires) which have wider and shallower treads. The R-1's are for mud and will dig down very deep, very quickly. The R-4's are more of a floation tire and will stay on top of soft soil a bit better.

You can't begin to compare the traction capabilities of R-1 or R-4 tractor tires to any truck tires. Axle deep mud is a fact of life for farmers and they don't believe in getting stuck.....

Lou Braun
 
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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those tires are awesome. I'd imagine they'd be hard on u-joints.
 

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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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6x6usa sells 16.1 beadlocks for about $200.

http://usa6x6forums.com
 
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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Ivan dont we have a tractor supply here in town?

Big R would have that stuff too....

You can probably find em locall and weasle out of shipping

You guys are nuts
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 01:44 AM
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Even though they can pose problems, I highly recommend tractor tires.I bought a set years ago at a swap meet,they sat around for a few years before I built a rig for trailriding using parts I had just lying around.Those tires were amazing-theres not a street legal tire out there that can even come close.The first year I ran that thing, I decided to try some mud racing too-I was running a stock 2v 351 windsor and a 435 tranny and I won the points championship in the outlaw class where I raced. Because of those tires, theres been a lot of people go to tractor tires in the outlaw class. Those tires were 8.3-24,about 40 inches tall. Im currently building a new trailrider with 11.2-24 tires,44 inches tall.The good points about tractor tires are1-cost,I only paid 75$ apeice for my 44's. 2-awesome traction, my smaller set even worked good at Disney Oklahoma (rocks) Bad things- 1- getting initially set up can be trying. Living in the midwest, I have been lucky enough to find the 24inch wheels that I needed, and I also had a connection to laser cut me some new centers that I welded in myself. There are places that can build custom tractor wheels here, a fellow trailrider had a set made locally that cost him 200$ each. I thought that was a lot, but I'm a self admitted cheap-*** and I prefer to build my own parts. 2- legality, do not- I repeat- DO NOT use these at highway speeds , as previously stated in another message, they will fly apart, not to mention balancing issues and even though they have very tall lugs, they would wear out fast on pavement ( consider the amount of rubber actually in contact with road !!!) For a dedicated off road machine, I highly recommend them, you wont regret it. If there is any interest in where I got my tires or for some custom wheel builders, just leave a reply on this thread and I'll round up some info.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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I've seen some dipsticks in Kentucky run tractor tires by using modified tractor wheels on some old F250s. Pretty effective for dedicated offroad rigs.
 

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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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It goes without saying that these ag tires are meant for off-road use only, and certainly not highway speeds. But now I'm wondering if their construction would allow them to hold up to 6k spins in a mud pit? Its starting to sound questionable. Granted, not many have the motor that could spin these tires at 6k, but I might know one or two of us that could
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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For that price it would be worth getting a set just to see if they'll blow up. I think mud would be a little easier on these tires than pavement, even if you were spinning them fast . . . a little more floatation and support when they're buried. I'm going to check our local tractor shop (thanks for reminding me Kev!) to see what I can find. I also checked online and found that some of these ag tires are available in 16.5". If I can find a set that would go right onto some regular rims I'd give them a try. Of course I'd have to actually lift my truck but you get the idea.

Btw Pro, I installed a memory tach yesterday . . . 4500 and I hit the deck in fear of flying parts. 6,000 . . . you scare me!!!
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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Btw Pro, I installed a memory tach yesterday . . . 4500 and I hit the deck in fear of flying parts. 6,000 . . . you scare me!!!
Man, you've got it bad, a memory tach Those are nice, I kept threatening my buddy to steal his out of his race car. I just put in a monster tach with shift light myself. 4500 is nothing for 460s...the bottem end can handle up to 6k before letting go, but since a stocker doesn't really make much power above 4500 anyways theres no point it spinning it up farther. I've got my shift point set at 5k, but I don't run it past 6k. My bottem end SHOULD be able to see 7k but I'm not going to put it to the test.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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16 inch tires will fit on a 16.5 rim... kinda the bed never actually touched the lip of the rim, took me about two hours to get it on, THEN i realized it was a 16.5 rim...

cool looking tires though kinda like a locker for a weak truck cause you would never be able to spin em'

200$ beadlocks wouldn't be that bad if you got the cash to spend, maybe if you could find a good welder he could cut out the center of the tractor rim and but in the center from a truck rim.
 
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