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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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Ok another newbie question....

In warmer weather +50F how long should I sit and warmup before I can get rolling without doing harm to the motor? I'm not talking about smoking the tires or anything, but just getting away from the house before my non-diesel loving neighbors start whining about the noise that is music to my ears

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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 11:01 PM
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Crater Joe,

I too love to hear my Powerstroke idling . Personally, I let my truck warm up for about 2 minutes maybe a tad longer before I pull away from the curb. I never "get into it" any way, but I am easy on the engine until the needle gets to the lower portion of the normal temperature marker. By "not getting into it", I try to keep the revs below 2k RPM.

Likewise, when I get to work, I let 'er idle for about 1 minute to cool the turbine down. After I've towed my trailer, I let the truck idle for about 15 - 20 minutes.

Well, that's my two cents. I really like my truck and I hope you're as happy with yours. PSD's are cool!

- Steve

P.S. I live in San Diego, so it doesn't get too cold where I live in the mornings.


 
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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 03:07 AM
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grrr everyone thinks that u have to warm up a diesel b4 u drive it. well that is not so. u dont have to warm it up unless u r going to do some serious hauling or fast excellerating. a diesel is a diesel, and it should last u 300k miles or more without any major problems. so if u want to let it warm up that is ur choice but do u have to, NOOOOO!!!!! but i do think it is good to let ur turbo cool down by idling for a minute or so, that is always a good thing to do. THOSE R MY $0.02, u do whatever with them.

P.S. i am from a long line of friends all with diesels, if u have any more questions dont be shy to ask. im not saying i know everything just enuf.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 05:49 AM
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Another Newbie here. Just bought my stroker yesterday(my first diesel)... I keep reading all these posts to learn what I can so Im going to ask why do you need to let them cool down before you shut them off? Is this all the time or just if you have been towing or running the truck hard ? What are the effects that could happen if you dont cool it down before you cut it off? Are there any other tricks or secrets I need to know? Any and all info will be appreciated.

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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 07:29 AM
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No need for warming up your truck. Start it up, let it get oil pressure and drive it easy until you are near operating temp. Cool down is required for the turbo so you don't burn oil on the turbo bearings. Shut down should be done when the exhaust gas temp is 300*F or lower.

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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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>Another Newbie here.
>Im going to ask why do you need to let them
>cool down before you shut them off? Is this all the time or
>just if you have been towing or running the truck hard ?
>What are the effects that could happen if you dont cool it
>down before you cut it off? Are there any other tricks or
>secrets I need to know? Any and all info will be
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks

Allowing your diesel to idle for a few minutes after you have run it on the freeway, or really any normal use allows the turbo to cool down so you dont have a problem with oil burning into the turbo bearings. I'm not sure but I would think this would not be an inexpensive repair,and it is one that can be easily prevented.

when I drove commercially for a local cartage co. running a cummins 3406 turbodiesel most of us took the time at the end of the day to cool em down before hanging it up for the day. one guy was always in a hurry and parked it, pulled the air berakes, and turned the key all in one motion nearly every day. after the second turbo rebuild on his rig ,he was canned

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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 06:31 PM
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>Crater Joe,
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>Likewise, when I get to work, I let 'er idle for about 1
>minute to cool the turbine down. After I've towed my
>trailer, I let the truck idle for about 15 - 20 minutes.
>
>>P.S. I live in San Diego, so it doesn't get too cold where I
>live in the mornings.

Steve thanks for the response!!!!

since I dont have a turbo on my 1990 F-250 7.3L, cooling down the turbo isnt a problem but up here in Minnesota it gets damn cold in the winter sometimes ( that's why it's called the land of blond hair and blue ears ) when that time comes the nieghbors can eat diesel smoke or stay in thier house!!!!

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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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>when I drove commercially for a local cartage co. running a
>cummins 3406 turbodiesel most of us took the time at the end
>of the day to cool em down before hanging it up for the day.

>craterjoe


Craterjoe,

Cummins does not make the 3406 engine.

 
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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Yes, that would be a CAT if it had that number designation.


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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:57 PM
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oops my ignorance is showing.....:-( "me bad"

I was a cummins however regardless of the numerical designation
 
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 01:08 PM
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Hey Diesel Steve,
I live San Diego also.....stuck out here in Texas at the moment :-staun How does the old PSD like the So Cal weather? Can't wait to come back with my PSD!


 
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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Howdy Eric.

Thanks for the reply. PSD's love the weather out here in San Diego. Of late the temperatures in-land (in San Carlos) where I live have been in the low 80's. The mornings are nice. Hurry back to San Diego. I am sure your PSD is missing you.

Take care. Isn't this a great website? I've leaned an awful lot about my PSD here and other things about my truck.

Steve

 
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 02:56 PM
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ok, another new diesel owner with what might be a dumb question. The messages I have read say to let engine warm up. My oil indicator goes to the half way mark as soon as I start the engine. I assume that's because of basic air temp. Or am i seeing oil "pressure"? I just bought my 2002 f350 psd. Don't even have a thousand miles on it yet.
Also, with this truck being new, with the intent of towing a fifth wheel, how often should I be changing oil?
Thanks for any info.
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 08:09 PM
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>ok, another new diesel owner with what might be a dumb
>question. The messages I have read say to let engine warm
>up. My oil indicator goes to the half way mark as soon as I
>start the engine. I assume that's because of basic air temp.
>Or am i seeing oil "pressure"? I just bought my 2002 f350
>psd. Don't even have a thousand miles on it yet.
>Also, with this truck being new, with the intent of towing a
>fifth wheel, how often should I be changing oil?
>Thanks for any info.
>ed
Bad news about your oil pressure gauge, it operates like a idiot gauge. It is set up so that it reads the same as long as there is at least 6 psi of pressure. There is a hack floating around where you can modify the 95-97's so it at least reflects changing psi but from what I understand, it doesn't apply to the 98's and up. You might consider adding a mechanical gauge.
About the servicing, I change mine every 3000-3500 no matter what. Motorcraft filters from wally world or Fleet Guard from the local Navistar dealer and Shell Rotella oil.
Your gonna like the PSD for towing


 
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 12:11 AM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 16-Aug-02 AT 01:29 AM (EST)]For crying out loud guys...
I agree with the moderator here.
Mobil, Chevron, or Shell. It really makes NO difference.....
Each of these oils has been demonstrated to be the best they can be for our diesel engines. Not that it matters, but I promise that the 3 oils mentioned above have been tested and proven time and time again. Mobil Super 1300 (Yellow Freight, the Largest LTL carrier in the United States uses this) Chevron Delo 400 or Shell Rotella T, they all are good oils and will keep YOUR 7.3 engine running far longer than you will own it!
You think I am kidding you???
Look at what the guy's are driving on this board.
Most are less than 5 years old.
The 7.3 will out last our Super Duty pick-up trucks by a LONG shot.
Good grief guy's, lets all grow up and act like adults here.




 
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