I am trying to remove the engine from a 1987 Plymouth Voyager. The directions are as follows:

10. Remove the transaxle case lower cover.

11. On automatic transaxles, mark the flexplate-to-torque converter location.

12. Remove the bolts that mount the converter to the flexplate. Attach a small C-clamp to the front bottom of the converter housing to prevent the converter from falling off of the transaxle.

13. Disconnect the starter motor wiring and remove the starter motor.

14. Disconnect the exhaust pipe from the exhaust manifold.

15. If not done already for access, remove the right inner engine splash shield. Drain the engine oil and remove the oil filter. Disconnect the engine ground strap.

16. Attach a hoist to the engine.

17. Support the transaxle with a hydraulic floor jack. Apply slight upward pressure with the chain hoist and remove the through-bolt from the right (timing case cover) engine mount.

18. Remove the transaxle-to-cylinder block mounting bolts.

19. Remove the front engine mount through-bolt. Remove the manual transaxle anti-roll strut.

20. Remove the insulator through-bolt from the inside wheel house mount, or remove the insulator bracket-to-transaxle mounting bolt.

21. Raise the engine slowly with the hoist (transaxle supported). Separate the engine from the transaxle, then remove the engine.

I cannot figure out how to "remove the bolts that mount the torque converter to the flex plate" Where is the stupid plate I am supposed to remove? I took the oil pan off the transmission and it gives no access. Can someone explain this a bit? The starter and everything is removed. The diagrams in the repair manual are no help at all.

 

My Shop manual says to remove the dust cover (inspection plate) to get to the bolts/nuts.
It is just behind the oil pan.

 

There is nothing there but solid metal.

 

I can't get my scanner to work.

 

Well what manual do you have? I have a Haynes repair manual. Yours is probably better. I had glanced at the removal instructions in All Data and it seemed to be more useful but I don't have access to it here. I was hoping to get this done this weekend.

 

Can you axcess the bolt heads through the hole where the starter was?

 

I am not sure. The engine is frozen and does not turn.

 

I have the 85 Chrysler shop service manual.

I got it at a swap meet ,but the weekend after a friend who the books were for,got his wife's totalled.

He told me he couldn't use them now,so I made them part of my Library.

It shows a really good pic of the area you're looking for.

 

This is a cradle assy right,meaning if you look underneth there is a frame under just the engine and trans.

 

No frame underneath. HERE are some pictures.

 

It should be within the black circle.

 

If it means the sheetmetal plate that is on the end of the bell housing then I don't see how I can get it off. It is sandwiched between the engine block and the transmission.

 

Sorry Hi HO,but you are not going to like what I am about to say.unless you can get the engine to turn over,you are going to have to drop the engine and trans out the bottom.the reason why is,if you cant undo all the torque convertor bolts you wont have enough clearence between the frame rail on the right side and the bellhousing to pull it out the top.so I would say if you dont want to drop it with the trans then,remove all the plugs and fill the cylinders with penetrating oil.let it sit overnight,then put a socket on a breaker bar and try and rotate the engine,if you cant break it free then it will have to come out as an assy thru the bottom.If you take it out the bottom,make sure you support the tranny while the engine is on the picker.you want to be able to undo the tranny to engine bolts without it tilting any.then you will simply pull the engine straight ahead to get the convertor out of the front pump of the tranny,once out you can then undo the torque convertor bolts.

 

HERE is another angle of that spot you circled Milion. King Triton, I am not sure if the engine is completely frozen. I was turning it with a breaker bar a few months ago. I will try again. I have the engine torn down to the block. All that reamains are the cylinders and crankshaft (seen in THIS picture).

 

That tin plate should come off once you remove the other support bracket bolts
After looking at all your pics,that plate will come off after you remove those lower brackets,but again even with that plate off,the engine has to spin to get at them all.